Prediction for Nurse on 6.5.0 Live

The thing is, if you have a random event when Slowdown is happening, this has the chance to be either too strong or too weak. If I go with your example, you can get back a really strong Pallet (imagine having to deal with a second Shack Pallet as Killer) or a really weak Pallet (lets say downstairs in Temple of Purguation, one of those which are available even before the Gen got completed), which will not help at all.

When it comes to Slowdown, I would agree that a bit of Slowdown is needed. But what is currently used is way too extreme. And too much synergy as well: Eruption has a lot of Slowdown-Potential alone - 10% instant Regression, then, if nobody touches the Gen, around 6% on top of it. Also, the Survivor cannot work on any Gen for 25 seconds, which is also 28% of a Gen. So one Hit with Eruption would mean that there is already around 44% of Gen Progress gone, so almost half a Gen was added. And we all know that there will not be only one hit with Eruption. And the only counter is to be on Comms and tell when you are about to go down.

And, on top of that, the synergy. With Call of Brine you regress double the Speed AND get information when the Survivor hits a good Skill Check. With Nowhere to Hide (which is completely fine on its own), you can get in a chase really quick after applying Eruption AND Call of Brine.

And all of that is simply too much and not really needed. And I am very sure, once Eruption is nerfed (which will happen), a lot of Killers will get a lot of really bad games because they relied too much on too much Slowdown.

Personally, I think there should be more spice to repairing a Generator. Like, really a second Objective. Obviously you dont have 90 second Gens and add a second Objective, which also takes time on top of it. But even if we just say that Survivors have to gather Parts and it should take them 45 seconds and THEN we reduce time on a Gen to 45 seconds, this would also be an improvement. To get one Gen done, it would still be 90 seconds, but the Killer would have more ways to interrupt, simply because Survivors have to move and cannot work on a Gen instantly. It would not be direct Slowdown, but some form of "natural" Slowdown. (But this is just hypothetic, including the numbers. And I doubt it will ever come, DBD is over 6 years old, we wont see any Changes to the Core Mechanics Hooking and doing Gens)

Mandy has already said they will never rework her power to something else because the time it would take to make a new power develope it then test it andbmake changes would be better used making a new Killer or do much more needed fixes to the game.

Yea but they didn't totally change his power. That's what I was referring to when I said that and when Mandy said it.

Also no one wants another Freddy style Nerf

Bad Nurses already stack slowdowns so I don't think much will change

We will see a LOT of Nurses for the first while after the changes go live so just be prepared for that as I this will make a lot of people miserable lol. But fear not, most Nurses are mediocre to awful so if you know how to deal with Nurse you should be fairly okay

I wouldn't be too nervous.....they will have to be pretty precise to use 6 -Blino effectively before the gasp hits.

Now the God Tier Nurses (which are very few and far between) will be worse to face but they were already a nightmare to face.

I think that the real reason BHVR hasn't touched nurse substantially is because they don't want to get accused of being PTW... Which could easily be fixed by just, you know, maybe buffing the other used-to-be top tier killer that got gutted for no reason at all?

No she isn't. She is basically the reason why having small maps can be extremely problematic despite being a necessity for most killers, it nullifies her only weakness which is poor mobility. If a nurse has good info on a map like RPD or Midwich you are utterly lost.

Yeah lets take away the only thing, which makes some more killers valuable! I can't wait to get even more genrushed, just because survs can't handle these perks. I play surv and killer and even in solo q its possible to counter eruption. if i see the obsession getting hurt and which killer we are against, i can kinda guess, when i have to get off the gen. Of course it doesn't work every time, but it is possible to avoid at least a few eruption-hits. Especially with the new HUD, it will be even more counterable, because you'll see when someone is getting chased.

Yeah i know slowdown perks are annoying, but if they nerf them, it will just shrink the variety of killers you go against, because some of them just need it, if you want to compete against good survivors.

And i am sure, the new survivor HUD will raise the efficiency of even a full solo q team.

And they are right.

At some point, we should perhaps face reality.

The nurse is and will always be the most powerful killer in the game, and that's fine.

But it's still a killer you can get away with (I'm not talking about Starstruck's nurse), even with double recharge addon.

So, it will remain a killer against which you can do well, once her recharge and range addons are gone.

It's up to the players to do something about it, and instead of complaining every morning that the nurse is too strong, to become better : watch tutorials, train with nurses in private games, record their own games as soon as they fall against a nurse, then watch, replay and analyze the games in question, to know what they did wrong, and how they can improve.

I'm not blindly defending the nurse, I'm happy that she can't use Starstruck and NOED anymore, but it shouldn't be abused either.

"and I think a lot of her new addons sound super fun, but that's gonna be something new to learn."

EXACTLY.

"new to learn"

That's what I find to be the charm of her back-blink addon.

We're going to have a nurse who will be able to go less far, and less "fast" (20m max instead of 24/26/30m), but in return, who will be more unpredictable during short distance chases; and having played against nurses on the PTB, I must admit that I really like the unpredictability that this new addon allows her to have, which, frankly, is not a deus ex machina either.

You don't need four slowdowns.

Nah, she is a relic of the past because she was released during a time where DBD was WAY differen than before. There was so much broken stuff which justified having Nurse around. But this is not the case anymore.

And if you really think, the Devs care about Survivors fun when they release a Killer like The Knight, you are so wrong. Knight is a pain to go against and really unfun. He is probably the generally most hated Killer in this game.

I dont know, most Nurse-games dont feel like they have worthy opponents.

Personally, I run: Shadowborn (learned her with Shadowborn and cannot remove it...), BBQ, Lethal Pursuer and Floods of Rage. So basically trying to be in a chase all the time. Even tho, I am thinking about removing Floods of Rage and run Nowhere to Hide instead. I dont like Genkicking, but I used Nowhere to Hide on Huntress recently (before I tried Darkness Revealed, but Nowhere to Hide is just better) and it is such a great Perk.

and survivors doesn't needed the free bt (especially since people use it for other things instead of escaping from the killer) plus 2nd chances on 2nd chances stacked (dead hard, off the record, ds, unbrekable, adrenaline and addons such as styptic agents and anti hemorrage syringes) plus perks for speed up generators (prove thyself, hyperfocus, resilience, build to last when paired with toolboxes) but yet here we are... If you want to remove the unfun things that one side bring then you should the same for the other, period.

and you don't need all those 2nd chances if you are skilled as survivor

I've been using aura only build

I can tell you that this "nerf" won't change a thing on nurse

I rarely see starstruck these days. It seems like the novelty has worn out. I usually get full slowdown already with the occasional ruin haunted on omega blink.

I wouldn't say happy. I'm almost neutral about it though.

I've played several games as Nurse recently, to check survivors in a perk-less addon-less Nurse (my goal wasn't to win, even if I've killed several teams)

Some survivors, even with less than 1K hours, are pretty good at it (I've past 3K hours). Today, one was so good I was wondering if she was cheating : she could always guess where I would land, even when I tossed a coin myself, and was gaining more distance I would expect ... but it may just be my paranoia (A side effect of going against so many cheaters so often). It was easier to get her without blinking, which I did.

I will not be affected by the nerf, but I suspect Nurse will become inaccessible to many new players.

What was her kill rate in the last statistics? Because it will most likely go down. However, I don't think the players who can't handle the Nurse now will fare much better after the nerf : they will still to know the counters, mind-game and think fast.

When I'm feeling lazy, I equip random aura perks. It's always a surprise when they activate.

Any aura perk that works in blink range is good.