Nerf Deadhard

Not every perk needs an additional special condition. - It's a high risk high reward kinda thing. It incentivises playing unsafe - because you can only capitalise on it in situations that are unsafe. Without dh you would never do that spin into the killer to bait a hit (that's what you wait out once you know) without dh you would never play a pallet/window that way. That's something people seem to forget a lot of times: survivors who use dh and are able to consistently pull it off play that way because of dh. You wouldn't magically get all those downs dh "took away" from you, simply because you would get much less chances to hit them in the first place.

I see you have made up your mind. Might be the writing but it also reads like you're very convinced I must be categorically wrong / what I say is laughable. Feel free to feel that way - but I see little point in a discussion then. You have your opinion, I disagree with it profoundly. I have my opinion and you disagree with it. So let's agree to disagree.

Dead hard is a basically a third health state which is just blatantly unfair. Catching back up to a survivor takes at an absolute minimum 21 seconds for a 4.6m/s killer or 30 seconds for a 4.4m/s killer to get back to the point where you are back in striking range, assuming no major errors on either side. This times having to hook 3x and do that with potentially 4 survivors. It is an absolutely massive time waster.

My proposal would to limit DH to once per game.

Nonsense. All of the quote. Utter nonsense. You CANNOT be going "just run iri stuff all the time and have that stupid OP perk determine your entire build and even what character you play" because that is what it boils down to.

Also, you are still wrong about Eruption. Eruption is not an issue. Never has been either. You just want all killer perks to be garbage for free wins. No.

Taking an iri into every game because it gives exposed somehow or the equivalent is not a practical way to handle DH.

Take fearmonger. You don't need iri stuff every game. Check the whole list. There are a lot of things there. Pick the thing you like most. Like deathslinger or legion - now you don't need any perk or addon to counter DH.

"You may only deal with this perk if you play this Killer!" is even worse advice. Fearmonger backfires as often as it helps (people start running way earlier).

If you're suggesting people only play certain characters if they want to deal with a perk that's in every game, maybe that perk is a problem!

1, So last time this happens to me with killer guarding his 3gen instead of chasing anyone was my hallucinations?

2, The list is very long. Pick something. Or don't. It's not like the thing has no counter and DH=win. Once again - in high elo where DH is most used (because it takes skill) there is still 61% murder rate - which means that there aparently - stat-wise is counter to the perk

3, 4, sure you are entitled

5, I have quite a good success with my most common build - darkness revealed, corrupted intervention, overcharge, pain resonance. I see nothing wrong with this build. It's also not as overtuned as eruption (and to a degree as call of brine). Calling these perks garbage shows things about you specifically. Also bamboozle (my common substitute for darkness revealed for certain killers) is also not trash. Same as huge number of other killer perks

6, it shows objective information how killers overall do. They can't be bad if they have 60% kill rate. That's objetively and stat-wise not true. Survivors (as a whole) are the weaker role now with 40% escape rate

So you say people play bad when they have DH but are still good enough to be actually able to use it? Wouldn't pre-running always be better no matter what? And if it's not better - doesn't that mean fearmonger actually provides you value?

Also to your deep wound - does that mean survivor can use DH while deep wounded? Or does that mean these killers can't apply deep wound? Again - taking these killers means you don't need to worry about DH, because said survivors will be unable to use it - making DH gamble (a wasted perk slot if they meet these killers).

Fearmonger usually works for way longer then 5s. You might have not noticed, but exhaustion recovers only when not running. Once in chase, survivor will usually (always if you are any good) need to run for almost all the time (it's almost certain he will not find 5s of standing still time).

Also suggesting play certain killers - not true. I listed all the possible options against it. And one option is to take any killer and no addon/perk against specifically this perk. You can always just outplay it. Win the mindgame. Sometimes all you need to do is miss a single attack on purpose (giving you much better value from DH players then from say sprint burst players where you can't just miss to disable the perk).

Overall - I would love it if say eruption - very strong and rewarding killer perk had so many conditions as DH (about same reward time-wise already considering survivor vs killer time). Because it's not possible to take survivor perk that denies kicking gen but allows working on it (the closest thing survivors have are repressed alliance that blocks the gen for everyone or blast mine that just prolongs the inevitable by ~5s). If there was any perk that can cancel any effect the gen has currently on it (so basically it would be counter to current meta - call of brine, overcharge and eruption) and did nothing else - it would still be used a lot. Killers have this and more (like said fearmonger counters also fogwise and partially other aura perks + helps with DMS+pain res combo).

if you need a third health state then you are the one with a skill issue for running perks that broken

What other skill issue are you talking about? What skill is needed to press E at the moment of the killer's swing in the pallet? I still understand if you caught up with the survivor to the pallet and wait for DH, but when you need to swing you have no choice, what are you talking about?

"I can 4k with it in the match or without it."

The fact that the survivors lose with deadhard is not a problem with the weakness of the perk, if you use this logic, you can survive with No mither 5-10 matches in a row and say that it needs to be nerfed.

DH is still the top 1 perk in the game, and it's not because of its weakness that it's being used, being able to just have an additional health level every 40 seconds, it's too strong, it's much stronger than MoM at the time of release.

Yes. And it needs another.