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Idea for more engaging generator repair

tristenbennett381
tristenbennett381 Member Posts: 117
edited March 2023 in Feedback and Suggestions

So people in the community have been talking about more missions in Dead By Daylight, so I would like to suggest an idea for making generators more complicated and engaging to interact with.


There would be multiple steps to activating the generator.

step1. Collect gas to fill the generator, a gas canister would be found in a random chest on the map. It would take 10 seconds to fully fill the generator with gas.

step2:You’ll need to access the dead battery but it’s protected by a bolted in metal casing. You’ll need a toolbox to unbolt the screws, you’ll enter a first person POV and have to directly unscrew each bolt as a mini game.

step3: The battery is dead so you need to spark it, you’ll continue to do a 1st person mini game where you need to connect 3 wires of different colors, some wires will not correspond and cause the generator to explode if sparked together.

Step4: Activate the generator.

If you are confident enough you can do the wires before you fill the generator with gas but you won’t know if you did them right or wrong since there’s no gas to cause a generator explosion. This means that the generator will just explode when you do fill it and activate it if it’s wrong.

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Comments

  • EmpireCity830
    EmpireCity830 Member Posts: 118

    That is too complicated. Most people who are new or have some kind of disability would struggle with this. Also it would make generators WAY to long. Killers would have an unfair advantage. I agree that the gen repair system needs to be changed in some way but it needs to be in way that won't give the killer a crazy OP advantage in the game.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266
    edited March 2023

    There were alot of ideas for Gas-Gen. And I do have one my own. But they're not going to make it happens.

    Adding 50sec to Gen was the proof.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 1,834

    From a conceptual standpoint, part of the problem with making such big changes at this point is that so much of the game would need to be changed (i.e. perks, maps) that it is incredibly unlikely. But let's throw that out and deal with the idea.

    Step 1: Adds a giant amount of randomness to the game. You could find a gas can immediately or have to search the entire map. With generators there is not that much a difference in time to finish between a mid-tier and top-tier player (excluding whether they are using a toolbox or not, which is a different issue).

    -this is not a con per se, some people really like randomness in games and is part of the appeal of DBD

    Step 2/3: More complexity in generator repair would be a challenge for new players while very easy for experienced players. Right now a player who can hit great skill checks with ease is only gaining a few seconds (again, excluding tool box player). Even relatively new players can hit skill checks pretty consistently. Why does this matter? It would make balancing very difficulty. If newer survivors are taking three to four times as long to finish gens what equivalent challenge could exist for new killers to balance this out?

    --we kind of have this problem already with SWF gen rush squads using toolboxes to power through gens far faster than most survivors can manage- that's a big problem with the game's balance that we'd just be amplifying here.

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    I think the problem with more complicated/involved elements is that they are going to either swing the game between newer/more experienced survivors and/or create a larger gap between solo and SWF. Adding minigames is a hindrance for newer players and irrelevant for experienced players. Adding more strategic objectives (finding gas) would benefit SWF even more who could call out where the gas is and plan delivery.

    As much as the idea of there being "more" to DbD appeals to me, the more I tend to think about it the more I realize it probably wouldn't work. Asymmetrical games probably have to be simplistic by default - the complexity comes from, primarily, the variety of killers and, secondarily, from the clash of different perks and items.

  • tristenbennett381
    tristenbennett381 Member Posts: 117

    True, regardless I really feel that this game needs to find a way to rebel against gen rushers big time. Something to slow the game down a bit so it can actually be enjoyed and make things more fare for the killer when dealing with skilled players.

  • LuthirFontaine
    LuthirFontaine Member Posts: 375

    I don't want this to get to complex. Ghostface for example would be very annoying if I had to solve a damn puzzle while working on gens

  • Nazzzak
    Nazzzak Member Posts: 5,678

    In addition to the points above, it'd just be more things for killers to patrol as well. And if they don't want to patrol then just camp the closest chests or battery casing to stop survivors from even getting to the gen stage. If I wanted to do puzzles I'd play a puzzle game, you know?

  • yauniqua
    yauniqua Member Posts: 151

    make the gas/toolboxes mandatory.

    reduce gen times.

    holding m1 is so irking @ this point.

  • tristenbennett381
    tristenbennett381 Member Posts: 117

    Well actually puzzles have been a thing in horror games since day1, iconic horror games like Resident Evil and Silent Hill had tons of puzzles and the upcoming Texas Chainsaw Massacre game will have you do a first person wire puzzle.

    Puzzles do not make this a puzzle game, if that were the case Resident Evil would be considered the worlds most popular puzzle game, this is classic survival horror.

  • HugTheHag
    HugTheHag Member Posts: 3,140

    Too complex.

    Gens are pretty simple and a bit boring because you still have to look out for killer.

    This prevents it completely...

  • Riski
    Riski Member Posts: 208
    edited March 2023

    I like the idea but it needs to be kept simple. DBD gets away with having a lot of complex perks and powers because the base gameplay is relatively simple to pick up, do gens, unhook and heal, don't die. A canaster idea could be cool as an additional objective that forces people to explore and play more of the map, it makes larger maps better for killer as the size now hurts the survivors more too and makes people take more risks.

    Despite this there is one big problem which is balance. It's the same issue as changing the killer objective to hooks, the entire game is balance around the core mechanics so even a minor change to them (such as increasing gen time) can require sweeping changes (like half the gen perks needing to be nerfed to compensate), so completely redesign the foundations of the game is going you to require you to also redesign most the game. Maps have to balanced around gas spawns, gen speed modifiers have to be changed around the gen portion taking less time, suddenly high mobility and aggressive killers become much better than slower more defence killers with this change. In a world where DBD 2 comes out and they can redesign the whole game from the ground up yes, this maybe a better way to do it and would be fun to see. But changing the current game like this would requires such a monumental work load that it could never be worth it.

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