Pallet Hell / How many DH do you see in 10 games?

30 DH in 10 matches done until now, not bad for a perk that for certain people here on the forum was deemed as useless...

*laughs in exhaustion add-ons*

Seriously I’ve been using loose screw on merchant and dead hard has become a non factor in my games. It feels nice

I think I see it almost every trial maybe? But again, I don't keep track, I just play around it.

Idk, why do people still insist on using Self-Care

Is selfcare popular? I don't see it much often and when I see it, it's often on meme/healing builds... Dead hard on the other hand it's in EVERY. SINGLE. MATCH that I play

Because its still a good perk? Something can be good but not OP. The advantage of DH is the satisfaction of hitting a successful DH, it feels and is much more rewarding as well than any other Exhaustion perk which are probably the strongest perks a Survivor can run

If were talking viability, Sprint Burst is hands down the most powerful option. Sure it nets less distance per activation but it also activates much more frequently and is MUCH more consistent. A good SB user is much scarier than a good DH user.

Wastes time in the middle of nowhere? Like, what, 5 seconds?

And name the Killers that can't use their power that aren't high tier/can't catch up easily that aren't Trickster.

Not guaranteed either, stop lunging and just follow the Survivor. If you think they're going to DH greed, just wait it out and then hit them. They can't drop the pallet after a DH before you can get a fast M1.

Then for your same logic they should have left untouched the spirit, the nurse, the huntress/clown addons, old noed, etc etc because they were extremely popular... Please before spitting out statements at least try to use some valid logic/arguments to sustain your points instead of saying nonsense... I could wrote why dead hard isn't healthy for the game and why it should be changed, but I wrote it so many times that I'm tired to say the same things everytime (especially if people tend to refuse to aknowledge that in certain situations YOU CAN'T BAIT IT)

5 seconds for every survivor for every chase. That'll add up.

Sprint Burst can be stronger if you go off pure numbers, but it's more awkward to work around than the simpler button press of Dead Hard. Besides, the issue of Dead Hard isn't the raw numbers of it, it's the mindgame. If a survivor runs away from you really fast, you know they have Sprint Burst right away and decide how to handle it then and there, but Dead Hard is much easier to keep concealed. After a while, Killers have to assume every survivor has it if they don't want to keep falling for it, and there's no absolutely certain way of telling a survivor has it until they use it. So we have to play the stupid Dead Hard guessing game of gluing ourselves to every survivor's back waiting for them to use the move they may or may not have and may or may not be trying to bait out because they know we don't know.

So we end up with this stupid clown show of two players afraid to make a move because one of them might have a trick they can pull at any second and the side that messes up first will lose and lose hard. And every moment the killer wastes on this guessing game is a small victory for the survivors. Now multiply that by four.

Dead Hard's power isn't just the free hit, it's the psychology it has forced people to adopt. It's like a little ghost that haunts every killer whispering "You can hit them now, but what if they have Dead Hard?" whether the survivor have the perk or not.

Every game there is always, ALWAYS 2 DH. Last night was an exception because everyone was using lithe for a tome challenge. It was a nice change because I could LUNGE safely and knew how to play around a lithe to prevent the boost or shorten it. It is a shiny lobby when there is only one DH. It is nearly unheard of when there is no DH in a lobby.

DH isnt just a simple button press, every time you activate DH you dont just immediately get value, Sprint Burst on the other hand will net you that value. In a meta as well where 3 gens are very prominent, being able to reach a safe space from basically anywhere is something that isnt talked about nearly as much as it should. It also deincentivizes killers to chase some one since they might just have way too much distance.

Now you wanna know what isnt talked about either? Knowing a Survivor has Sprint Burst, but not seeing them use it to gain distance immediately. Yknow what that means? They have the possibility of having something thats even stronger than old DH that can still be used while healthy. But this time? You know they have it, you dont know if its ready, and thus you are conditioned to commit to the chase until you find out without even getting a hit. DH at least makes the Survivor have to mend which wastes a bit of time, you get none of that with SB.

I understood at first waiting out DH, but now Ive gotten to a point where I just immediately swing. Good Survivors expect the wait, so why wait? If they end up using it immediately then keep it in mind and expect them to do so again.

Sure theres a big risk in doing so, sure the Survivor might get away, but this mindgame still HEAVILY favors the killer since in the end they still do have the option of waiting for the Survivor to make a move.

Always see at least 2+ in my games its not nearly as prevalant as before, but people have not stopped using it. All it really takes is for 1 dead hard or 2 to get hit which isn't really that difficult to do as you can just force it the majority of the time and many killers have really telegraphed powers.

I get that people think the perk is okay since they can't make use of it every game, but it's still the best exhaustion perk the people who doubt it is basically the same people who kept saying old dead hard wasnt that good cause they always ended up exhausted on the ground because they didn't know how to properly use the perk.