to the people that think there shouldn’t be DC penalties, why?

Hmm I honestly more often hear the exact opposite that bans should be more punishing (myself being one of those people)

What about dcing if you have been slugged for 4k should I get punished for that?

I know it will be hard to tell for the system but I am helping the team by dcing and I hate that I get punished for doing it.

Hell sometimes I would take the BP loss but the timer is rough

There SHOULD be DC penalties and soft/perm bans for VALID reasons: rage quitting / leaving the match at any point.

HOWEVER.. I believe if OTHER people DC before you, and screw the match over, then anyone else DC’ing after the initial DCers shouldn’t be penalized with a soft DC ban.

For instance: I’m a solo surv. I can’t tell you how many games I’ve gotten into matches where 1-2 other survs DC early at 4-5 gens. Im not talking DC on death hook.

So what am I supposed to do at that point? 3 survivors are not going to finish 4-5 gens. So If I “Leave the match” at that point, I shouldn’t be penalized. If the Killer were to leave at that point they shouldn’t be penalized either.

Let’s not forget AFK survs. Or survs that intentionally throw the match early and die on hook.

I don’t mind being soft banned for rage quitting, but we shouldn’t be soft banned for DCing if someone else DC’d first. That’s my 2 cents.

Do you see a punch line? Do you sense sarcasm?

Fortnite doesn't. And they are arguably the biggest one out there, and have been for quite some time.

Mhmmm.

Pretty sure last time I played OW there wasn't one. I can quit out of QP anytime I want, same with CoD or BF.

Haven't played Apex since it came out, but it didn't back then.

I feel they should not only have the disconnect penalty, but also put in a matchmaking system where people who dc often are forced into games with other people who dc often and need to play through a set amount of trials without disconnecting before they're removed from that section.

Did I say that? Where?

If there's not a competitive mode, it's casual.

No other game bans you for quitting out of a casual queue, so don't be facetious and make it clear in your post next time; clarify that you are speaking about those games competitive queues.

That is all, I will not be commenting on DBD's relation to this.

I've actually not yet stated my position I'm afraid.

You must have me confused with someone else.

Likewise, my entire point was for you to be more careful with your language and how you word things.

I wouldn't go as far as no DC penalties, but I think maybe 1-5 freebies a week (on top of the current system) wouldn't be bad. If there were freebies you could use them in the case of a 4 minute bleedout Killer, or a Plague when you brought a heal tome, or a clear bully squad when you are not in the mood, or all gens done and 0 hooks. You clearly are not going to have a good time, but you can't use them willy-nilly. Also the stats on the freebies could be telling of problems people just put up with, and have their time held-hostage in spirit. Those stats could help work on addressing those problems, instead of leaving them to fester and cause the player to hard quit the game instead of DC the single match.

One alternative instead of freebies, would be a Killer ban though (1 per 5 Killers released, and an option for 'previous killer'). I despise going against the same Killer over and over and over again. I also dislike Killers like Plague/Oni/Myers where you die because a teammate gave them their power. Not to say people only DC because they don't like the Killer, but a little can go a long way. I'd argue a DC is typically from reaching an 'eff this' moment. Building up bad experiences can make someone reach this 'eff this' moment sooner. Sadly that only addresses the Survivor sided DCs, but I'd argue Killer DCs at least hard ends the match, so they are less of an issue. Similar with the freebie DC idea, the stats on Killer bans can be used to address flaws.

I know, there are too many Nurse players /s. More specifically if a player does something because 'the other side's fun isn't my responsibility', that justification can be used for Killer player's actions just as a Survivor player's actions, including DCs. That doesn't make a DC allowed, as the bans and game rules indicate. I would argue some level of fun is everyone's responsibility for every other player, since it is a game, and we play games for fun. If you go against someone who doesn't want you to have any fun, then you stop playing with them. If the game keeps forcing you to play with that unfun aspect, you stop playing that game entirely.

It's not a ban, it's a time penalty, that's an important difference.

"If you don't like that people are leaving, perhaps coop games are better for you"

I totally agree. If you want to do any challenges or tomb achievements, then you should consider doing them in a coop game (swf), because the chances of success are better here.

"Something I don't understand is why the Devs removed the compensation players would get when someone DCed. Back in the day, if someone left at 5 gens, the gen amount the rest needed to do was 4 or 3. I fail to remember .I know it was 1 gen if you're the last one.So for example, if 2 people leave at 5 gens, the gen amount that would need to be done by the rest to power the exit gates changed to 2 or 3. That gave a bit of hope to the rest of the players in the match to win. I don't know why it was removed"

This was before the endgame mechanics were added. At that time, matches where only 3 survivors were connected to the game were finished and not canceled immediately. Therefore, the number of generators was adjusted accordingly. Ongoing adjustment of generators etc. during gameplay if a player DC'd never existed.

Well, apparently you comment was deleted.

Multiplayer games can't allow the dc's this game does because it ruins it for every single other person. Every other game that allows it is an arcade game that can just fill in other players for the people that dc. That's not viable in dbd(for the player the would be filled in) and if that's not viable than DCing should be far more heavily punished.

Self unhooking(XDDDDDDDDDDD) is even worse because survivors essentially just get a free out with no punishment(something very common in all of my survivor matches right now). People DCing vs wraith who isn't tunneling several games in a row, just imagine being that person LMAO.

Your tome, your challenge, your internet and your personal fun is below the need for games to be played out consistently or the game WILL die. I can guarantee you that the biggest reason for survivors leaving the game right now is due to other survivors not playing the game.

Your comment was the one that got removed, mine was a response to your comment, but anyway, as I said in my original message (which btw is still up), most games don't ban you for DCing unless you're playing competitively which you aren't in DBD.

Most other games either don't punish you at all or punish you if you don't forfeit. There is no forfeit option in DBD, unless you count giving up on the hook, which is not a viable option since you get other survivors forcing you into staying in a match as well as the killer sometimes. Some games allow you to DC and X amount of times before they give you a matchmaking ban, because guess what, there are countless reasons why one would want to disconnect, and unless there is evidence that it's being abused, they don't ban their players.

People play games to have fun, they play multiplayer games to have fun. If they are not having fun, they will leave. I don't understand your logic of punishment. Punish players because they're not having fun or because they're experiencing an issue with the game or connection, or because they're facing hackers, or farmers, or are being body blocked, etc.? Other players are not responsible for your fun, you can't expect your teammates or killer to cater to your fun, they only care about their own fun. No other player has an obligation to offer you a good time. If a match to you is ruined because someone took their leave, then leave too or make the most of it and move on. You can't control other players, and punishing them only hurts the game itself.

I also don't see your logic that the game will die if people leave matches. When they leave, they start another match. In fact, giving a matchmaking ban to players for leaving may cause them to leave the game altogether. Let's say your teammates are sandbagging you, the killer is helping them, farming with them, and you just want to play normally, but you're forced into the match. You decide to leave and let's say that is the 5th time this happens, and you get a 24-hour or 3 day matchmaking ban (theoretically, of course). Now, you can't play the game for 3 days, now imagine how many other players are in the same or similar situation.

Every game developer's goal is to have players in a game as quickly as possible, preventing players from playing hurts the game, not disconnecting. Players that disconnect likely just want to move on to another match, therefore they are consistently playing the game.

The game needs a better forfeiting option or lesser punishments because, yes, people would and will abuse DCing if there is 0 punishment. My point is to only punish those who evidently are abusing this, not the average Joe that might disconnect every now and then.

That's right. Just because a match offers less fun because of a certain map/killer/perks or you get downed within the first 3 minutes and things don't go as expected shouldn't justify to DC that match.

It should be punished. Penalties should remain and even be increased.

If you only enjoy the game under certain conditions, you should simply change that game, which this type of player probably does regularly anyway.

People that ragequit often should be matched with each other. This allows them to still play the game, and they can ruin each other’s games.

It doesn't matter how much you want to force someone to spend 20 minutes on a match they have absolutely no chance of winning, you won't succeed. There's always running at the killer, spamming lockers and if all else fails, there's alt tab that will solve all your worries. I understand how frustrating it is, especially in SoloQ. But with the DDOS...I mean random crashes running rampant, hackers flooding the servers, the game spaghetti code genuinely crashing people to desktop who actually want to play the game, the DC penalty is hurting more than it helps.

People always say that when DC penalties are off the game is unplayable, but I never have quite as much fun when I can just literally check out of a 10k Blight clubbing on SoloQ babyseals. If BHVR made the game less #########, people would actually want to play. Solve the issue, not the symptom.

If a game lasts longer than 30 minutes, the penalty should be removed, only a very small proportion of games last that long.

Also remove the DC penalty for players who leave the match after the first DC has occurred.