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Slugging?
To whomever may read this,
may we please have a "BLEED ME OUT NOW" button for when being slugged.
I do not enjoy having to wait 5 minutes to bleed out while the killer has a sook and afks because they are bad at the game.
EDIT BECAUSE I FORGOT HOW BRAIN DEAD 99% OF THIS COMMUNITY IS*
I'm asking for the option to voluntarily force bleedout after X amount of time of ALL FOUR survivors being slugged.
If the killer manages to get 4 survivors slugged, the survivors did something wrong. I agree with that argument. Once the killer knocks all survivors down and then goes AFK, however, just let me get out of the game and move to the next, thank you.
PS: To the guy who said "I believe bleedout is 4 minutes not 5", your autism is showing.
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We do not need another way to avoid the DC penalty, thanks
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Respectfully, to you, what difference does it make if players DC when being left to bleed out, or if they bleed out?
I'd much rather move to the next than wait 5 minutes for bleed out. I'm not talking the killer having one person slugged, and allowing that person to give up. I'm talking the killer has all 4 survivors slugged and refuses to pick anyone up, leaving all players to do nothing for 5 minutes.
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I really wish there was this after say- 1:30 slugged.
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I agree, bleeding yourself out can be a healthy alternative than letting the killer slug you for the last survivor leaving you in limbo of pickup to dying state again. Ofc it can't be instantaneous like a DC but speeding up the action would really save time and boredom for survivors that are basically being bullied
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There could be some sort of equivalent of "Second stage" dying for bleed out.
Let's say after 2 minutes (over 50%) you could choose to die (bite your tongue for those who need it to make sense).
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If the killer sucessfully downed all 4 at once.. then there must have been some severe misplays on the survivors' part
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Then "just bleed out me" button is not a right suggestion because that punishes those who deserves 4k, finisher mori is exactly what you would want.
What you've suggested just punishes killers in lot of arbitrary situations, just bad change.
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*Laughs in Infectious Fright, A Nurse's Calling, Sloppy Butcher, Star Struck Nurse*
I can't help but notice you completely ignored the question.
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Simply allow the bleed out option to grant the killer the equivalent of a 4k??? You and old mate Not_Requested49 are clearly missing the point. It's beyond me why you both even commented tbh.
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Slugging for the 4k is boring for both sides. But also walking around the entire map to pick up survivors who have decided to crawl on an adventure after you get the last person downed is also super lame. There are lots of things they could do to speed up the whole endgame process after the game is decidedly over.
Like, if everyone is downed and no one has Self-Pickup or Self-Unhook, the survivors were given a vote in the Esc menu to give up, sacrificing everyone instantly.
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That just seems stupid honestly
While I get your intentions it just seems stupid to have more options of killing yourself to avoid DC penalty
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Because having more ways of suiciding to avoid DC penalty is not good imo, and tbh the killer shouldn't get automatic sacrifices for it either
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I try not to leave survivors bleed out fully either but say you want to pickup someone and before they do, they just bleed themselves out to deny it? And even if it was restircted by the amount you've lost before you can do it, this can hurt twins or someone with tenacity crawling away, letting themselves be bled out before using unbreakable at the threshold so the next time you down them they can just deny it without any penalty
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The worst slugging is when there are 2 survivors left and the killer leaves one on the ground even though the other survivor is nowhere near them. They'll do this up until the slugged survivor only has about 5% left on the bar. It is beyond toxic. Slugging has to become a thing of the past in this game.
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To answer the question: I think that's what they were trying to do with the basekit unbreakable update, but there were so many complaints on both sides that it never made it to live servers, I think basekit UB is a nice idea but the PTB times were too fast for snowball like killers (Hag, Meyers, Twins etc.) to keep up with it. If they increased the time it takes to pick yourself up to like 60 seconds, (40 with the stacking UB, Expo, NM) but decrease the time for altruistic healing (similar to medkits) I think Basekit UB would do amazing. You'd get to use it Twice per match at basekit and 3 times at most.
Also in response to the above comment, Starstruck doesn't work on Nurse since her update 2 or so patches ago. Blinks are no longer basic attacks, so yes if 4 people are downed because of starstruck nurse there were some serious misplays made by the team/solo q players.
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I said when everyone was downed and there is 0 way for the survivors to comeback, no self unhooks and no self pickups. Not at all times. How is that stupid? I think the killer walking around for 3 minutes finding scattered survivors that have crawled around the entire map is more stupid.
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If you got it, you deserved it, and the part about "bad at the game" only confirms this theory.
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Huh? I'm just stating you shouldn't have the rights to deny the well deserved four sacrifice of killers "just because".
If everyone is downed he should have that, really.
And if everyone is not downed what you want is literally just a free DC which already exists in the game and harming the game a lot, we don't need such things.
Basekit UB was literally a mistake no one ever want and shouldn't want, finisher mori didn't allowed killers to "snowball" or anything because when that activates everyone was already lost on live server, adding that with conjunction of finisher mori did not made sense at all.
Just add finisher mori so killers can't waste time when game is over, that is good enough, no need to give unnecessary free buffs to survivors.
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Because there's always a chance a survivor can wiggle out while being carried
If anything however I would think once all are downed the killer gets basekit deerstalker so he can find them, although this may be too strong
But the best solution IMO would be to make a chance to pick yourself up once all survivors are downed or there is 2 left, like trying to kobe off hook, and will subtract a chunk of your bleedout time if failed (while also making bleedout time much longer to not incentvize slugging as much) and the penalty can be 45 seconds for failure as well as a Loud Noise Notification for the killer if you fail
That way, the survivors can have at least something to do in an unwinnable situation
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I believe it's 4 minutes not 5
This will lead to people instantly rage quitting on the floor as soon as they go down every time. It will be a DC without the penalty. People are already doing this via on the hook can you imagine how crazy it will get if you can do it on the floor.
You also can still come back from a game your team mates can pick you up? 1 unbreakable can turn a 4k for the kiiller into a 0k never give up :)
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Have you played against good nurse? Or infectious fright Oni in a swamp map?
my solution would be that after recovering to max survivor can choose to crawl significantly faster at the cost of accelerated bleed out. Which would let you die in 30 sec if crawling in this new speed.
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I hope the devs actually read this.
Just had a match against the pathetic merchant and they spent the entire trial slugging everyone with knockout, sloppy yada yada yadaaa. And just went AFK and left everyone to bleed to death. Mind you NO ONE TB-ed or BM-ed, their whole build was made around it.
Can we please have something that just forfeits a match like that where everyone can just vote and leave?? Without being punished more?
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The problem is that this "I want to bleed out" button could be abused by survivors wanting to make the game miserable for the other players. 50% of Twin matches and almost100% of Condemned Sadako would end like this. Killers with burst powers (Myers and Oni) would get nerfed by this hard, because they often slug to be efficient with their insta power. And believe me, there would be some toxic people who would bleed out if they get slugged for 5s, even if it would be normal gameplay for those killers. Also bleed outs give less points and worse emblems than hooks.
Sure slugging is boring. But I would not make a bleed out option available until only 2 survivors are left. And even then only actavate it after 2min. Therefore the killer can slug for the 4k but he can't just do it for the whole 4min. This is the only reason I would like to see this.
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Is the killer not supposed to stop everybody like the in-game manual says?
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Not without consequence. Survivors should recover over time, not die over time.
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