Almost 1 year after massive perk changes, what's your opinion on changed perks?

haha, would not be overpowered with "Made for this" at all

The SH:PR changes i wasn't too happy about, sure they upped the regression side of it, but not a fan of the only 4 uses. Rather they nerf it back to 10-15% but slap a 20-30 cooldown on the perk activating again.

Call of brine / Overcharge - The problem was them stacking effects together, to nerf them in such a way to near uselessness i found questionable.

Ruin - Again, didn't see the issue beforehand, cleanse it or powerthrough it. If it even lasts 5 minutes that is.

Eruption - Good change.

GearHead - Good change, it's now in my Artists build.

Pop - Good change, in my m1 killer's builds.

I kinda wish they made Jolt also work with special attacks in the future, that would up it's usage for me.

The perk nerfs for both sides were bad, unnecessary, and (in part) gave rise to the problems we dealt with and still are facing. If anything, the 6.1.0 nerfs should have only been single nerfs, not double. (DS 5s, Pop Current, Ruin disable on death, Iron Will 100% non-exhausted, etc.) The largest gameplay problems of camping/tunneling were absurdly buffed, instead of only buffing normal gameplay.

Earned Regression that was fair? Naw, lets buff unearned regression and release multiple 3 gen Killers. Buff Thana when the numbers were fine? Now too many people are running it so it gets nerfed into oblivion so only Legion and Plague can use it. It was fine at 5% per Surv, and they should have only reverted the needless buffs, or have it apply 2/4/6/8 for 2/6/12/20 total instead. 2/4/6/20 total is the worst option imaginable.

Camping and Tunneling? Lets make all forms of anti-tunnel Endurance not work when Deep Wounded, then put all forms of anti-tunnel onto Endurance that gets the most value when you hit them immediately off hook from a proxy-camp. That was a severe overreaction to meme videos getting 5 Endurance procs that absolutely couldn't happen in real matches.

Self-care was fair to nerf, especially given nerfed medkits now as well, but they didn't need to make Self-Care a full on Killer perk and all medkits the exact same version (making Brown Medkit the best and only Medkit in most matches). I think the Green Medkit should still be better at self-healing (removing the speed penalty), and Purple still have more charges (at 32 and removing the self-charge inefficiency, but keeping the self-speed penalty). Heck, they even nerfed Pharmacy to be worse than Self-Care with the Medkit changes, it should at least remove the self-healing speed-inefficiency (for Pharmacy) now. On the topic of nerfs I can't believe they had the gall to nerf Calm Spirit and call it a buff. A real buff to Calm Spirit would be silencing all killer unique sounds, like the sound of Plague infected puking, or Artist crows swarming you, or Wesker Ouroborous on you.

Dead Hard I was perfectly fine with the original rework as Killer, although it was too short and laggy for me as Survivor, but I'd argue they went too far with it's current state. I'd even make the argument it should be 1s of Special Attack Endurance that can also be used when healthy. That would help with both lag, and against the Killers who need DH to make them tolerable (Nurse/Blight), while not impacting M1 Killers.

CoH was probably the only good perk nerf in the list. It was overbearing, annoying, and impossible to deal with (in a reasonable timeframe) on 2nd story placements like on Ironworks.

I was one of the few people to occasionally run OG Eruption, and it was fair with a short Incap timer (16s?), fair Regression (since it was I think 6% per gen kicked) and still required a down. I think its current form is slightly better overall, especially with current Pop and Nowhere to Hide, but the middle form of 25s unreactable incap was an abomination that never should have made it to live.

I am also one of the Psychos that still believe Pain Res is currently buffed. It gives more Regression until 7 old Pain Res hooks, and doesn't force you to go out of the way for PR hooks once you've gotten the token, saving heaps of time. At 6 hooks you have either 2 people dead (3/3/0/0) so you don't need regression because it is a 2v1. Alternatively you have 1 person dead, and any combo of hooks on the rest, so it essentially is a won match (due to being a 3v1) unless you have half a gen remaining. Finally the only other possibility is 2 people death hook and 2 people with 1 hook, so by hooking one of the death hook Survs you get the 3v1 which is a won match except against the half gen remaining mentioned above. If they finished the gens, you had MORE regression and couldn't keep up, so it was a lost match regardless. The only argument I've heard that has merit, was old PR gave you more failed let-go skill checks, but the stats only bumped regression to 26.7% and 16.7% or something like that, which didn't change the breakeven points from 6/7 for new/old. Technically it changes the regression to 35%/25% new/old only like 7% or 17% of the time or something like that, so it was gambling anyways.

The Singularity introduced alternate item slot is interesting, but I haven't had time to truly know whether I like it or not. Overall I think its better, but sometimes you end up carrying the Spray/Vaccine when you want to use the Medkit/Toolbox/Flashlight. You can still drop some temporary items, but with Singularity's it deletes the item.

Deja Vu they stated was a 'temp' buff until they fix intentionally 3 genning from the onset. Technically this also is in line with their original DS claims of it being reduced to its current unplayably bad 3s stun. I think DS needs its 5s stun back or some other stronger anti-tunnel countermeasures, but Deja Vu is just a strange buff that will likely cause more problems that it is seeking to solve. If anything I think Deja Vu should give 1% boost every minute (or sooner) that the current 3 closest gens is the same 3 gen. That way when you get those degen 3gen Killers it can reach 30% gen haste reasonably, but in most normal matches it won't even reach 5%. I think a reasonable 3gen fix is allowing the first gen completed to 'uncomplete' itself at 2 gens remaining, but it progresses at 25% normal speed (or 360 Survivor seconds instead of 90). When at 1 gen remaining the second gen completed 'uncompletes' itself allowing a repeat at 25%, and the first gen (if not completed twice) is boosted to 50% speed (180 Survivor seconds). Killer regression still works at full value on these repeat gens, only Survivor speeds (for recompletes) is reduced. The reason for 2 levels is in case of the bad/bugged 4 gens on one side which can be seen rarely on H shaped maps with 2 1 4 gen placement instead of 3 1 3.

Overall the perk nerfs were near exclusively bad, unless nerfing what was needlessly buffed like the unearned regression. I would say about half or more of the perk buffs were good, and I already went over each of the major bad ones (Pharmacy/Calm Spirit).

Base mechanics overall I'd say were largely good. The 6.1.0 basekit Brutal/STBFL/BT were all nice additions, but Endurance shouldn't care about Deep Wound, especially anti-tunnel Endurance. That was the only basekit mechanic change that was strictly bad. I'd even make the argument basekit/perk BT should give permanent Endurance for the timer, but you lose collision during the Endurance timer so you can't bodyblock for a teammate. This would also help against the double tap tunnels like Huntress/Bubba/Blight/Nurse can do quickly and easily.

Also gen times being buffed to 90s, but hook timers being not adjusted too, was an absurd buff to camping that makes no sense even to this day. Everyone says the counter to facecamping Bubba is 'just do gens', but with Deadlock and the first down in under a minute results in a minimum 2k, most often 3k. An intentional camp from the onset should never result in more than 1k, and I would go to the extreme to say if someone stays on hook through first state, the second state should take 5 minutes instead of 1. If they are camped they will be the only one to die, and if you camp out only the second state (to punish Survivor greed) then you can leave to pressure the remaining 3.

I played the game on release for less than 2 hours, because I used the steam refund as it was unplayably bad imo (I worked a certain nightshift and with Killer as host, they had 200+ latency minimum, getting hits at windows and pallets they clearly missed, and Killer had to deal with the literal infinites.). Then I rejoined when a bunch of friends were playing semi-frequently shortly before or after Twins came out. (My steam achievements don't help because I think I played at a friend's house/console off and on with them before I re-bought it myself.) Overall I'd say the best the game has ever been was during the short timeframe before and after Mikaela's release while CoH was killswitched. Even then I think the version of hatch prior to Mikaela's patch was the best it was, as it allowed a '3 gen/intentional facecamp/hard tunnel kill' counter in its prior form. (That was the hatch spawned when the Gens remaining was equal or less than Survivors killed, and keys opened it for 10s IIRC.) So I had just shy of 1 year of mostly good changes, then nearly 2 years of mostly bad changes, with a decent enough recovery as of late.

Overall I think change for the sake of change is mostly bad, which was the theme of 6.1.0. Change for the sake of fixing bad things is mostly good, which was mostly the theme of 6.7.0. Even then, making all medkits samey is a boring change, but they were in desperate need of being nerfed.

I'm still mad about self care it was the best perk for us solo Q only players, to rely a bit less on your teams, and DS of course still useless after all this time

Genuinely baffled Calm Spirit hasn't been reverted.

And this right here was the problem. People just became immune to damage after taking a hit for someone who is most likely being tunneled and what do they do?

They run the hell away!!

That's not the perk being bad, that's the people using it being stupid

MoM now requires you to take a hit, heal up, take another hit, heal up again and then take another before it even does anything. That's the most stacked medkit and 48 seconds if you don't want to rely on your team

With endurance MoM you needed 1 protectin hit and a heal and you were ready to block for a tunneled person twice in a row. That's half the amount of time wasted.

The aura read and deactivating on actions was completely irrelivant if you did what the perk was suppose to do and protect your teammates.

It was a pretty effective anti tunnel tool. All it took was to not be selfish while playing the team role. And dbd survivors are on avarage so bad they couldn't get their head around that

dark theory is global. its called made for this. you've been vsing it with added condition of injured and only when not exhausted. dark theory does not need nerf and neither do other boons. the other boon are not great right now due to their limited radius. buffing their radius would make them relevant in survivor gameplay.

Agree with almost everything you said except DS. It takes like literally half the stun time to just get off the shoulder and into the run animation, it’s entirely futile against any killer with mobility or range in a vast majority of scenarios. I do agree though that I don’t think it’s absolutely useless like a lot of people do, you can still get a lot of value if you go down near a strong tile like a jungle gym, but IMO I think it should just be reverted back to 5. The perk just feels weak I don’t know how else to say it. OTR just feels like the superior choice in 90% of your games.

I think the killer meta (Pop+Pain Res) is very strong right now. I barely lose when i sweat, even with killers where i'm not used to the mechanics a lot.

Survivor on the other side is heavily focused on SWF gameplay, even more than before. 2 years ago you could carry a solo squad with a good chase and DS+DH. Now all of the good solo perks are gone and a lot of the buffed and new perks have their focus on comm teamplay. That unbreakable boon is a good example, it works great when playing with friends but is almost no option when you play solo.

They also have to work on tunneling meta and MMR. I wish they would bring back ranks tbh

they could make it that the perk starts with 4 tokens. The first time that a new survivor that is hit loses a health-state. the generator with most progress and that is being worked on is blocked for 10 seconds. No clue if anyone would use it... but hey it is gen slowdown I guess. As long as you do not use it on legion, it might be useful.

I can understand the case for that version, but I'd rather them add a new perk to fill that role.

Also I was reading a couple other comments on how they nerfed CoH (and Self-Care) into 'garbage' tier, I'd say allowing CoH Self-Care at 25-35%, and the actual Perk Self-Care at maybe 45%, would help make both of those perks still usable, without making CoH overbearing. The teammate will see the HUD of you healing, know how much time you are wasting to Self-Care, and go to save you more time to heal you instead since they can now see your aura and just might not have been looking in that direction before. I do think CoH in combination with an aggressively placed Shadow Step is powerful and annoying enough to require a response by the Killer. Also I'm almost at the point of thinking it'd be fine for actual Self-Care to be back at 50%, but I also don't know if after nerfing Medkits it would just open up everyone bringing it as a perk-tax almost.

nuke made for this then i want iron will back lmfao