Unaliving on first hook should be bannable

Rather than make it bannable just remove it.

• Make it so you can't attempt to Kobe if it would put you into struggle phase and remove the struggle skill checks (or just the miss 2 skill checks to die part).
• Make DCing similar to Overwatch where you can rejoin and don't get the penalty until a set time and after that time everyone else who DCs doesn't get the penalty. And cancel the game if someone DCs within the first minute.
• Rework Skull Merchant and make holding games hostage more punishable/less possible.

Perhaps not bannable. I do agree with OP on the whole. But it's impossible to tell apart hook suicides with genuine attempts to either kobe when you won't get unhooked or dies to let last surv get hatch.

Remove the progress loss for kobe attempts and decrease the base self unhook chance to like 0.5%. It does 2 things, it prevents the soft DCing which let's be honest make up like 90% of hook suicides, and makes self unhook build a viable build to run instead of a 10 IQ stupid suicide gamble. And perhaps allow hook suicides if there is only 1 other survivor left so ppl aren't forced to hide longer to get hatch.

It's such a win win. Plus it makes facecamping less effective which would make life a bit better for survs in solo q.

Sandbagging, AFKing and working with killer would simply lead to them being banned, so no loss there

Even if the devs just completely removed hookicides, players would just find another way to get out of a game. You can't force someone to play a game. If they want to get out without a penalty, they'll find a way. For example, if hookicides were removed or a reportable offense, players would likely just throw themselves at the killer.

He rounded... The probability of at least 1 success after 3 attempts at 4% per attempt is 11.5265%

1 - (1 - 0.04)^3 = 0.115264

You can't round RNG.

The 4% of 3 chances is 4% that you try 3 times.

If you have a 10% drop chance of an item killing an NPC,that doesn't mean you get an item at the 10th try.

RNG isn't calculations,it's RNG...

No matter what the devs do, they cant just force someone to play out a game. Especially when Skull Merchant and Wesker exist.

It can be annoying but if someone doesn't want to play a match, forcing them to stay in it isn't going to work and I think it could harm the game long term.

I had many MANY games that I freed myself and escape

Or when everybody escaped because 1 person managed to do it

Its part of the gameplay and it's exciting

Definitely think luck offerings and related perks should be reworked anyway

Had players try to kobe, when i came running from the other end of the map, in an attempt to unhook themselves right before i reached them. That isn´t a nice move towards the person that wants to help. Sometimes i even wait, let them finish their kobe attempts and watch how they fail + enter struggle phase.

The least i could do.

It's something ppl want to earn. And tbh the BP is a more tangible reward than most ranked modes. Players grind out pips in dbd like ranks in overwatch or whatever gamr.

Semantics. Point is ppl shouldn't be ragequitting like toddlers having a tantrumn. Messes up the game experience for everyone else killer and survivor.

That's why we have DC penalties, and why we ahould have some way to prevent/punish ppl who work around it by deliberately dying on hook. Games are supposed to be played not given up at the first slight inconvenience.

it would be really tedious to have to afk and wait for the killer to pay attention to you and kill you and if they're run at the killer the killer can choose to slug them all this will make most players rather actually play the game cuz it'll actually end faster in a lot of cases than trying to do this at every little inconvenience like entitled Survivors do.

removing hook kobes will definitely help with giving up situations but it's not perfect cuz then you remember things exist in the game that no one wants to play against like skull merchant or condemned sadako slugging you over and over or it's a losing match or teammates not doing anything these things make me hesitant to accept the removal of the mecanic.

I'll go as far as saying that DBD shouldn't have DC penalty if the game isn't in a ranked mode.

DBD should make a ranked mode and then add DC penalty there and remove it on casual playing.

It’s really hard to prove that someone intentional sandbags and sometimes that they’re working with the killer, though. A teammate could fail skill checks on a gen but how do you know they’re sandbagging vs distracted? You don’t. The devs don’t really punish sandbagging unless it’s extremely obvious—and even then, it’s super rare to see accountability. I understand why, though. A lot of players suck at the game. They might unintentionally sabotage and to punish them for that would really drive them away from the game. Making the game too oppressive for average/casual players would kill it, a la the dev’s other game, Death Garden.

which is why there is a disconnect button.

I empathize. There are always people who will act in their interest at the consequence of others. There are always people who feel that the system has done them harm and nothing is owed to it.

Not the best solution available, but I think the current answer is the community cup. Closest thing to "ranked" matches. There regs make the game a lot more balanced and help mitigate the savage rng we find in regular play. A lot of the rifts in the player base stem from groups approaching the game from different levels of intensity. I say, let those throwing a temper tantrum play in a typical soloq match. If you take the game more seriously, start making a team, play with them and other teams, and I feel confident, you will spend more time dealing with like minded gamers.

Not trying to be too preachy. Hope this approach may ease some suffering

The thing is, with the new BOTs in place, a player who regequit DCs or whatever is hurting their team less then as if they hook suicide. A player who DCs will be replaced by a bot, who at least tries to do gens and is unmindgameable, a player who hook-suicides just turns the game into a 3va and a definite loss.

But as a killer main I am still a bit salty that I get no easy cop out and just have to stare at a wall when the survivors are all bullies :)

Ive been against playing SWF for a long time, but now Im seeing a really good pull for it. Players like @dy86 are really plentiful in soloQ. Bots have been interesting, and can still make a difference. But not when they are completely circumvented.

@EQWashu , Im curious if this circumvention is considered part of your 'DCing' endorsement/admission. Literally right here in fine print. We're so curious!