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PLEASE CHANGE THE BAN TIMES!!

The ban times are ridiculous. I'm currently sitting at a 5hour ban because my internet was interrupted 4 times today!! You should instead cap it at 1hour. Anything over that is just power tripping. I've got 6000hours on the game and am as close as I've ever been to deleting it.

Comments

  • jordanjustice
    jordanjustice Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2023

    +1.. People paid for this game to play it... let them play. It is ridiculous to place outrageously timed bans on people for DCing: Rage-quit or unintentional. Quite frankly, it shouldn't be up to the devs to impose punishment on paying customers.

    Maybe.... new thought hatching here... MAYBE... the DCs per day go as a number above the survivors head in the lobby and everyone can see it. Then teammates and killer can lobby dodge them if the number is too high for their liking.

    mind-blown

    Pretty sure I just solved this eon-old dilemma. *drops mic*

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,491

    If only there was a way to distinguish between ragequit dcs vs. connection problem dcs.

    Both could get a penalty with ragequit dcs being harsher.

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,491

    You've never had an occasional connection problem in your life ever? How's that in your control?

  • rvzrvzrvz
    rvzrvzrvz Member Posts: 942

    72 hours is insane and it makes bot useless, no one will DC if you can die on hook in 15 seconds, cap it at 1 hour it's more than enough

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,330

    It certainly is, 100%. Resting on laurels here. You have my sympathy.

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,330

    When I say somewhat in control, it does not mean everything is in my control. But in a Democracy Votes change the future.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,099
    edited August 2023

    Just get rid of it. Now we have bots (who have played better than some people) I don't see the point in it. It will also solve the issue of hook suicides.

  • Batusalen
    Batusalen Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2023

    Well, OP said their internet "was interrupted 4 times". Maybe if you see your internet is not working properly and you disconnect 2 or 3 times you can just simply stop playing for a while until you see it is fixed and not risk getting a penalty for a 3º or 4º time.

    And if we want to get real picky, he could also have called his internet provider to check if there was any problem with his connection and when it would be fixed.

    Either way, it was his choice to keep trying to play with an obvious unstable connection and risk getting disconnected against his will multiple times.

  • CatnipLove
    CatnipLove Member Posts: 1,006

    What's the point of increasing the intensity of punishments if it doesn't actually decrease the offending behaviour? At that point you're just punishing people because it brings you satisfaction. Which shouldn't be a motivation for how you repremand someone.

    Then you have to consider how it affects players with unstable internet. Which is something that many people, depending on where they live, can't do much about. So if increasing DC penalties doesn't decrease the amount of people who leave the match prematurely, and it seriously harms some player's ability to play the game, then what's the point?

  • not_requested49
    not_requested49 Member Posts: 1,979

    It still won't because of those who want to keep their points and XP lol

  • Evan_
    Evan_ Member Posts: 547

    There was a period when dc-penalties were off, and the number of quitters skyrocketed. I find it reasonable to assume that there is a strong inverse correlation between the severity of dc-penalty, and the number of disconnects. Do you have any reason to suspect that dc-penalties don't discourage leaving matches?

  • WilliamSN
    WilliamSN Member Posts: 524

    Stop thinking with the "me me me" mentality.

    Someone ragequitting or leaving due to bad internet impacts the match quality for the other 4 people in the match.

    People queue up and expect to find a match with 4 other people, otherwise they would have played custom matches versus AI.

    Someones wifi problem or ragequit tendencies shouldn't be encouraged at all, your problems dont justify the 4 others in the match being punished with a lower quality match.

  • thisislastyearsmodel
    thisislastyearsmodel Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 636

    Get better internet connection or play a single player game.

  • CatnipLove
    CatnipLove Member Posts: 1,006

    There's plenty of research on the relationship between punishment and reoffending, and the short version is that punishment works up to a point. Increasing the punishment beyond a certain point doesn't deter certain behaviours any more than a lesser punishment. Punishing players for a DC works, up to a certain point. But extending the severity of the punishment isn't guaranteed to further reduce players leaving the match. But it is guaranteed to harm players with unstable internet.

    I'm sorry, me me me what? I have fantastic internet. I don't live with my mum like you probably do, so I can choose to have great internet. This is not a problem I have.

    The point I ACTUALLY made was that I just don't think BHVR should be excessively punishing players who live in places like the US, where often they have zero choices as to what ISP they can choose and get stuck wiith trash internet, if they can't even demonstrate that increasing the punishment reduces the amount of DC's. Don't accuse me of being self-centered, whilst dismissing issues that relate to players other than you, when you can't even demonstrate that it's worth screwing over those players.

  • Venusa
    Venusa Member Posts: 1,491

    Yeah I agree. Occassional internet disconnects are normal here and there but if I figured out something is wrong with my internet I don't force myself to play the game knowing I'll keep disconnecting on others.

    But I also don't understand how some people here act all mighty and pretend they've never lost connection during online games their whole lives.

  • WilliamSN
    WilliamSN Member Posts: 524

    So by your logic , bhvr should let the people with chronic wifi problems ruin the matches for everyone else.

    Your whole argument comes from a selfish point of view. "I should be allowed to ruin matches for everyone else because my wifi is bad and go completely unpunished"

  • dbdthegame
    dbdthegame Member Posts: 699

    Occasional connection problems occurring 4 times in a day, it's probably time to call it quits and go play something else until your internet stabilizes.

  • CatnipLove
    CatnipLove Member Posts: 1,006

    We get a bot. It's better than nothing. Some players only get connection issues a few times a day. Should those people get a 24 hour ban after a couple of days? I don't think so.

  • mizark3
    mizark3 Member Posts: 2,253

    I can tell you are one of the following: not American, rich, or out of touch. Most locations (in the US) are run by a single telecom company. They edge out all of the competition, and provide subpar service compared to even what would be considered 'unplayable/unusable' to most of Europe as well as Korean and Japanese standards. As a result, people end up with 1 choice of internet, or what that essentially means, no choice. More and more areas are neglected, despite receiving federal funds to improve infrastructure meant to be used for all companies. Comcast is one of the leading corrupt companies in this regard, but they are all guilty to varying degrees. In addition many rural areas don't have hardlined internet, and often have to resort to using Satellite, which has a far greater failure rate (or at least enough packet loss to count as a DC in most games). As long as there is no reconnect function, the DCs shouldn't be so excessive, especially if they want people to give a DC bot instead of surrender on hook.

  • WilliamSN
    WilliamSN Member Posts: 524

    And if we wanted to play with AI we would have made a custom match vs AI.

    Someones spotty wifi shouldn't punish 4 other people from having a good game.

    If your wifi crashes so often that you reach the 24h mark, you should consider single player games.

    It takes you 5-6 DCs in a day to reach a 24h ban.

  • CatnipLove
    CatnipLove Member Posts: 1,006

    I have no idea how the ban system scales and decays. That was just an example.

    It's not the end of the world if we get a bot 2/20 matches or so. The punishment of having a bot isn't that bad. Despite the fact that part of me dies whenever I hear that DC sound, even now when we get a bot to replace the person that left.

    I will miss watching people pop out of existence though. Seeing them disappear only for an item to drop to the ground was always funny.

  • DrKetchup
    DrKetchup Member Posts: 162

    I don't see the possible benefits of bans over 1 hour. They should indeed cap it.