Stop Forcing Killers to Finish Games Against 4 Disconnect Bots

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NotJared
NotJared Member Posts: 389
edited August 2023 in Feedback and Suggestions

Survivors use disconnecting as a punishment against Killers that they don't like ("oh I'll screw over this player by DC'ing because they played The Clown and I hate The Clown!").

Salty players shouldn't be rewarded in this line of thinking.

Killers shouldn't be forced to play out matches when there are no players left in the trial: Give killers the option to disconnect with no penalty (and let them know this option is available) when there are no humans left in the game.

If I wanted to be playing against bots, I'd be queuing for Custom matches.

Since the Disconnect bots have been added, I'm tired of being forced to sit around and wait for 4 AI bots to finish all 5 generators because an entire SWF decided to instantly disconnect from the game because they think it's funny or they want to observe me chasing bots in spectate mode like a zoo animal (which I'm aware is being removed in the Alien update) or because they hate the killer or for whatever reason.


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  • EternalRique
    EternalRique Member Posts: 114
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    I literally had a 3-man SWF disconnect against Pinhead and it was just me and the killer as the only real people in the match LOL; it's absurd and I knew it was going to become commonplace.

  • NotJared
    NotJared Member Posts: 389
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    I don’t want to be forced to pick between either option! Just let me leave

  • Pluto_1
    Pluto_1 Member Posts: 337
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  • XombieJoker
    XombieJoker Member Posts: 36
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    okay, claiming the bots to be hard really says something about your skill. None-the-less you can't force people to play the game if they don't want to. BHVR's not going to do anything about it just like they won't do anything about if a killer downs a survivor and face camps their hook to make sure they don't pip or play the game cuz they targeted them. BHVR barely did anything about the cheaters. Cheater gets banned, they just load up one of their other 100 keys. We banned 200 000 cheaters, cool so when you made the game free on Epic store they literally made hundreds of accounts to stockpile you literally banned the same hundreds of cheaters over 100 times each

  • NotJared
    NotJared Member Posts: 389
    edited August 2023
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    Let's say it happens in the next game or later that day. You're saying I should take a 15 minute DC penalty or be forced to sit around and do nothing by myself for five minutes while I wait for bots to figure out how to finish the game?

    You'd really rather people have to pick between getting trapped into games with nobody in them or be forced to take matchmaking bans rather than just... let them leave?

    You've yet to propose a reason why the game NEEDS to stay the way it is when it would be incredibly beneficial in every way with no downsides to just let players leave from these matches.

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  • CatnipLove
    CatnipLove Member Posts: 1,006
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    Yeah. Four DC's should just end the match in the killer's favour. No clue why BHVR thinks anyone wants to play against bots. I don't even like having them on my team.

  • NotJared
    NotJared Member Posts: 389
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    I wouldn't necessarily say that the game needs to end immediately - many upset Survivors used to DC to deny Killers achievements or Challenges, like the Evil Incarnate achievement that requires Myers to Tombstone all 4 survivors.

    My ultimate goal is to avoid any situation where a player can use disconnecting to successfully punish another player.

    I would prefer giving killers the option to leave with no penalty, if they so choose, unless they want to finish getting their 4K or getting their challenge done, etc.

  • NotJared
    NotJared Member Posts: 389
    edited August 2023
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    This isn't a problem just affecting me, this affects everyone who plays Killer.

    I disagree with the argument that we should leave Killer players to suffer by getting trapped in human-less matches should a full team of survivors decide to leave at once, no matter what the reason for the survivors' DC's are.

    Every player deserves a fair and fun experience, whether they're a Survivor player or a Killer player: At the end of the day, every player, no matter what team they play for, is a player.

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  • DaddyMyers_Mori
    DaddyMyers_Mori Member Posts: 2,205
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    You could get back to before.

    Imagine doing adept, killed 3 and last survivor DC. There are only bots left so game ends.


    But it should definitely end if there 4 bots, alive.

  • rvzrvzrvz
    rvzrvzrvz Member Posts: 939
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    please give us 4k instantly, when a killer leave everyone get instant 7000 I thought that it was common sense, happened 3-4 times to me and bots can actually loop for a while with their wallhacks it's very boring


  • etms51
    etms51 Member Posts: 606
    edited August 2023
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    I accept this discussion. The problem that if a survivor disconnects, it's not fair to put a bot and have the killer continue the game with bots, just because they leave in 3 people. To solve the problem, if it is a disconnection for crashes, you could put the function to reconnect to the match. (If the bot has not already died). However, if the disconnection is voluntary, it is okay for the survivor group to be in 3 (compared to putting a bot).

    Obviously if it's a public match, if I want to play with bots instead, they can decide to play in the custom matches.

    In public match plays with bot is totally boring.

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333
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    There isn't a good way to distinguish what are crashes and people just leaving.

    You end up in a situation where you're designing a system to only check for if someone clicks a menu button, but if someone just ALT F4's the problem isn't really addressed.

    They should just end the game when it has to spawn in 3 bots. At that point it's joever anyway.

  • Karth
    Karth Member Posts: 112
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    I hope to see you in my matches, OP, me and my team always get stomped, with rarely more than 1 dc

  • etms51
    etms51 Member Posts: 606
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    Some games have detect if people just leaving (Alt+f4, leave a match). If there are some crashes issues (where the programm tell a crash report to report these issue.). These games are Valorant, Riotgames.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 8,904
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    Yes some games can detect an alt+F4 or a force close.

    It is impossible however, to detect a player physically unplugging their ethernet cable.

  • NotJared
    NotJared Member Posts: 389
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    I'm still often getting matches where all remaining humans are either dead or gone (DC'ed) and I'm left to still be forced to play out full Killer matches by myself with no other humans in the lobby. At this point my time is literally being better spent going AFK and scrolling on my phone rather than playing the game just so the matches end quicker.

    Removing the ability to spectate after disconnecting has cut down on the frequency of this happening, but it still happens from time to time.

    Please, we shouldn't be penalized for leaving an online match that has no humans in it!

  • Wowie
    Wowie Member Posts: 556
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    I genuinely think it was better when disconnecting didn't dump a bot into the lobby. I don't like playing against bots and it's relatively common to see DC's as Pinhead.

  • Unknown2765
    Unknown2765 Member Posts: 1,775
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    Not all bots are, tbh. i would say that 50% are better than actual players, but thats is beside the point.

    Killers should be given the option to end the game if there are only bots left.

  • _Onyx_
    _Onyx_ Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 348
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    Completely agree with the Original Post. I had a match as Skull Merchant and got Hawkins, all 4 survivors dc'd and I was made to play against them (I had a challenge and a daily to do with her). It's such an oversight that the Killer player is just trolled like that by a disconnect.

    It's so blatant that the Devs only care about Survivor enjoyment at this point and have done for years. Any time something is unfun or unfair for Survivors they look into it and change it right away or asap. The fact this has been an issue since Bots were introduced is ridiculous. Pull your finger out, Devs, and start loving your other child.