Distortion needs a slight nerf

Yeah, I'd still use Distortion even if its recharge was nerfed a little bit. But a lot of people are oversensitive so if you suggest even small tweaks, they freak out like you're asking to eat their children.

So, i dont think the 1-1 fixes are a good thing, as the game should be asymetrical, and staying in the killers terror radius can be really hard against killers like Blight, Nurse, Billy ect.

I will come with a counter suggestion.

How about giving slow moving killers a 2% speed buff instead? this might make it harder to just loop the killer and gain Distortion, it would also balance the game more as those killers can really have a struggle to get a draw unless they camp and tunnel.

For me thats a perk i almost always use, i have some work related mussle damage that prevents me from playing as much as i would like, the result of that is that

1. I need to play dbd with a controller, even when im a mouse+keyboard from since that was introduced into pc gaming. (that means for me, that i fail some moves where im sure i would have succeded if playing with M+K)

2. I cant play as much as i would like to, so that means that i suck more at looping.

That is 2x minus on my looping, if you also take away Distortion, i might aswell stop playing dbd. Because thats how i survive, by not being detected.

I do go and take hooks to "protect" my team, but i try to make it at my choosing when its "my turn".

Distortion is essential for me to be able play dbd with my handicap.

Distortion charging in chase is a given, and should removed. I was stunned when I saw it allowed it while I used it... otherwise perk is absolutely fine.

I would like an alternative info perk that informs you when your aura is being read by the killer though....

Perhaps Spine Chill could be changed to simply grant its extra action speed effect whenever your aura is read for the aura duration +5 seconds. It lights up when aura is read, then counts fown when the aura ends. Seems a fitting rework to that perk to peel it off the bottom of the trash can.

So you are trying to say that 1 distortion means you will see 0 people with your lethal pursuer (meaning your perk got really countered by 1 survivor perk)? Or to actually have killer wasted perk slot you would need to use 4 perks instead (1 distortion on each survivor).

Are you trying to deliberately not understand?

NTH is very easy to outplay with Distortion though, especially on a non-high-mobility killer like Nemesis. - And even if it was only possible to regain a token out of chase AND it took 20 seconds..... the survivor on that gen who has distortion would still not run out of tokens before the end of the match if they know what they're doing (they would also not be found if you don't make it a point to turn every stone - quite literally. In which case they already wasted about as much of your time as an average chase for one health state is).

I'm not ruling out that Distortion may need some changing somewhere down the line / there might be a better version of the perk - but none of the changes that have been proposed so far would solve your problem.

Also, while I'm aware unsolicited advice is rarely wanted, may I suggest to switch out NTH for Gearhead, Darkness Revealed, the Jill's Sandwich add-on (2stacks lost; 12 sec duration), or Hex: Undying. Why these? Because they eat away at stacks without recharging them at the same time - they can also be used somewhat frequently.

I'm guessing the OP doesn't play as a survivor much, if at all. There are few things more frustrating than having a killer hook another survivor/kick a generator/etc. and then having the killer beeline straight towards you.

Speaking as one who plays both sides of the proverbial fence, I can tell you that, as a killer, I rarely see it used. Why? because it only counters one or two of your perks for ONE survivor. If you're using three or four aura perks, it's ridiculously easy to overcome Distortion -- if you know what you're doing. And those supposed two perks are still useful against the other three survivors. IMO, there are far more reliable ways to find a survivor while simultaneously still giving them a chance to hide.

When playing as survivor, I feel as if I NEED to run Distortion just so I can have a chance at hiding from the killer....but even then, it's useless for most matches as most killers don't even run with aura perks. IMO, if you're using an aura perk, it totally destroys one of the survivors' few defenses...being able to hide. And even with only two aura perks, there have been multiple times where I've run out of charges. Other players are right in pointing out that, against the more silent killers, Distortion is heavily crippled. The only time you CAN effectively recharge them would be during a chase...and if you nerf it with a longer refill time, it will effectively make the perk little more useful than when it didn't refill at all, back when there were far fewer aura reading perks. After the first few minutes of the game, it became completely useless.

As a killer, I never run with an aura-reading perk unless absolutely necessary (such as for quests). I personally consider them to be "noob" perks used to counter a lack of skill. I DO, however, run with two perks that allow me to track survivors via other means...each of which can be countered by another perk, which (surprisingly) is very rarely used, and each of which only work in certain scenarios. Given how many other ways there are to track survivors (via other perks or just by paying attention in a game), I am incredulous that you feel the need to nerf such a perk. If the survivor you're chasing takes so long to catch that they're refilling their Distortion, then you're taking way too much time on one survivor.

I think the real problem here is that it counters your specific build. There's a reason why perks like BBQ, Lethal Pursuer, and other aura-reading perks are considered meta.

You keep reiterating that you only want the refill rate to be extended by 20 seconds or not apply while in chases. That is far more damaging to the perk than I think you realize.

As a side note, I often see survivor mains decrying all the nerfs to survivor perks and buffs to killer perks. I see the opposite with killer mains. This is what I can tell you: I find it far easier to play as a killer than as a survivor unless I'm up against a strong swf group....and I'm better at playing survivor than killer, assuming the killer isn't tunneling or camping (which I also consider to be noob tactics and try to avoid as much as possible).

Storm

Oh, and for all you survivors who like to play Bill Overbeck...I can hear you coughing. 😈

Well isn’t SUPPOSED to be a counter for aura seeing perks? like I get what your saying about how they should get tokens but once they have them it’s still going to counter your aura seeing perks almost the whole game which is what it was made to do

just like perks like light born are meant to counter survivors and make them bringing flashlights completely useless

like most perks have counter so I don’t see the issue

this would make distortion even more useless against killers like Sadako, Wraith or Ghostface, who already are adept at denying stack buildup.

i think it would be fair to slow the stack gain in chase, but removing stack gain in chase entirely would make the perk even more enemy-dependent than it already is. because remember - if the killer has no aura reads, Distortion is a dead perk slot. it's not like Lightborn or Franklin's where you can take it adaptively, you take Distortion without knowing if the killer has aura reads in the game you're going into.

In the current killer meta, with perks like Lethal, No Way Out and BBQ still very prevalent, it makes sense to bring, but it's never a guarantee.

Hi, Charlie,

I'll answer these in order.

1. It's good to know that you're not just a killer player. One truly needs to work both sides of the proverbial fence to get a better idea. Have you used Distortion? I can't remember if you mentioned doing so before. I think you'll find that the disparity truly shines when you compare the smaller maps to the larger ones. A killer using two aura readers in a larger map will quickly deplete my distortion, and unless I'm actively seeking out the killer, it becomes useless very quickly. If they're using 3 or 4, well...yeah.
2. That's exactly it. They remove a key factor of the game -- being able to hide from the killer. This is why I consider them noob perks. As for gen-rushing....I do see it from time to time, but not nearly as often as I expect. Perhaps it has to do with the times of day that you and I play? There does seem to be a pattern there, if I remember the examples BHVR provided prior to the massive perk adjustments.
3. I get that you changed what you wanted nerfed. I still think it's too much. We'll have to agree to disagree on this, I think.
4. I'd be more amenable to an uptick of, say 10 seconds, in return for stealth killers better affecting token regeneration. BHVR would have to hide the progression on the perk to do that, though, and that could be an issue as well. I try to keep track of how far I am in getting another token. This would blind the survivor to that, which very much changes the dynamic of the perk, switching it from being actively monitored to more of a "fire and forget" perk.

Either way, I think 20 seconds is just too much. Look at what 10 seconds did to the generator. It made a massive difference. Given that Distortion only affects aura readers, it is useless for all of the other perks out there.