Is the pig bad, or is it just me?

pig was very efficient before the EGC, cuz you could place RBT on survivor and they woul have to remoeve them before going out.

You are right, removing the warning would be a very efficient buff

Generally you should not use the "ambush" attack as an ambush. It's name is pretty bad. When you are trying to sneak up on survivors, you should uncrouch and go for the standard m1. That will leave them far less time to react.

For the ambush attack, you can use it at loops, but you need to be careful with it. Here is a diagram.

The black lines are a wall, the blue line is an undropped pallet, the red circle is the killer, and the green is the survivor.

What you want to do as pig is take control of the pallet without it being dropped, so run the loop around the pallet and stop there. Then you want to crouch and charge your ambush and go to one side or the other. If you guess right, you will land a hit, if you don't you will not. There are other tricks you can do as well to throw the survivor off, for example you can actually slide on the wall but facing the opposite direction, so you can often catch survivors thinking you are going right, but you are going left, and you are sliding on the wall going the opposite direction, really making them think you are going right.

The weakness here though is 2 things:

• The survivor can immediately just predrop the pallet
• The survivor can "leave the loop"

The leave the loop part is something that is tricky and takes time to figure out, you need to get a feel for when the survivor is going to do it, and if they start doing it, you can start baiting it. The counter to "leave the loop" is for you to uncrouch and start chasing them. Often times, unless there is a really close by tile nearby, you will be able to catch up to them before they get anywhere meaningful.

For predropping the pallet, that is something most killers deal with. Simply break the pallet, and decide if it is worth it to keep chasing (pro tip: most of the time it is not)

My general strategy for most killers in the early game is, if i can't land a hit in 10-15 seconds i drop chase. If the survivor drops a pallet, i break it, and drop chase. Because that survivor is going to at least take another 10-15 seconds to hop back on a gen, and even then it probably isn't a gen they want to be working on. So it gives you some time early.

The last thing i can say is. Do not tunnel the guy with a trap on their head. This is actually bad and will lose you the match more often then it wins. The point of the traps is NOT to kill a survivor with them, the point of the traps is to delay the game by FORCING the survivor to complete an objective that is not the generators, or they die. By all means if you happen to run into the person doing a box, hit them and maybe hook them. But don't go out of your way to tunnel them, because it goes against the point of the traps.

The RNG for the traps is normalized such that, 1 trap takes 1 search to come off, 1 trap takes 2, 1 takes 3, and 1 takes 4. So that means on average you have 10 box searches worth of traps. A box search is going to take a survivor at least 20-30 seconds. So that is ALOT of slowdown that you have built in, so make sure to use it as such.

For her addons generally these ones are good:

• Shattered Syringe
• Combat Straps
• Workshop Grease
• Last Will (when combined with workshop grease)
• Bag of Gears
• Tampered Timer
• Crate of Gears

Don't take Rules set No 2. You would think it might be good, but it is terrible. When the survivors don't see the aura of the boxes with a trap, what are they gonna do? They are gonna do gens. So all it does is lead you to getting gen rushed more. Any addon that does things like "survivors with a trap are exhausted" are also bad because again, you do not want to be chasing survivors with a trap, you want to leave them to waste time with the traps. Video tape is also a bad addon most of the time, unless you make a build around it.

For example, i like to run video tape with Jigsaw Sketch with lethal and a bunch of chase perks that allow me to get a down super quick. Generally the survivors aren't going to spend time on gens and they are gonna immediately go for boxes. If you are good at chasing, you can often get a hook before a single second of a gen is worked on. Basically, if you are good at chases and can snowball it can work really well because you frontload your gen slowdown by just making survivors immediately start doing something else.

But her slowdown can cause Survivors to 99% multiple Gens then as soon as the Survivor gets the Trap off they pop them or they will pop multiple Gens before the Trap comes off... cause of having 2 minutes to find and take off the Trap... or maybe the Survivor checked 2 boxes and the other Survivors see this and then pop the Gen only for the Survivor to get the Trap off on the next box

There's a lot to unpack when it comes to her Traps... to get a head pop it's more on the Survivor(s) misplaying her Traps and Gens

Yes, Pig is terrible. You are better off playing a different killer.

HOW DARE YOU

"And The RBT's are RNG ridden... and that's part of the struggle"

It is not really RNG anymore. There is a fixed number of searches, so even if the first person gets their trap off after their first search, the other 3 wil lhave two people who will need 4 searches and one who needs 3 searches.

(It is obviously still RNG if you dont manage to get 4 Traps, but not getting 4 Downs while 5 Gens are completed is more the fault of the Killer...)

@Topic:

Pig is underrated IMO. Sure, she is a M1-Killer and she is not the strongest, not even close. But she has build-in Slowdown, which is good on its own and better than quite a bunch of Killers. Her stealth and dash should get some Love tho.

She's on the weaker side of killers and could use some minor buffs but there are certainly worse killers.

Most Pigs from my games used a Face the Darkness build for massive delay and head pops. It's been a long while since I've seen a Pig but that build is certainly...something.

You can google the build or maybe someone who plays Pig a lot could explain it. It might be a newb stomper build for all I know as I almost never play her.

Ok....

Pig is a killer of strengths and weaknesses.

This comes from someone that has over 2k hours on pig.

The weaknesses: slow Stealth, ambush can be walked away from at most tiles, m1 based killer that struggles with big maps and unfair designed tiles.

Strengths: only killer that can passively kill survivors, Stealth helps with first hit, can safe Stbfl stacks very easy, ambush (and especially moondash) can outplay tiles most killers can only dream of (my personal favourite being the carpark on Garden of joy), solid addons, the best build in slowdown mechanic in dbd and of course: 🐽

She's a very solid killer that struggles most against survivors that delay her first down a lot.

Otherwise she's awesome. Awesome enough for me to stick to her for this long. And I don't plan to give up on her any time soon.

But I understand why she feels underwhelming to a newcomer in comparison to killers like Blight, Nurse, Wesker, Spirit, Artist, Plague, Pyramid head and the likes.

She seems to be simple but has a very complex kit that needs a lot of knowledge and understanding to become really scary for your regular soloq - and even SWF - (on comms AND not on comms) teams.

You forgot the medical file.

I rarely play without it.