STBFL and UW nerfs in next big patch. Just watch.

Hardly think sloppy needs a nerf. Now sloppy butcher addons for certain killers like nurse sure but the perk itself? Never.

Spirit phase attack is M1. She's still get the benefit. Blight can M1 then use the weapon cool down buff for M2 to shorten the distance even more. Its not like they need the perk. But aint doing s is wrong.

On M2 killers, If they miss M2 trying to save STBFL stacks, its on killers' fault. Not "nah STBFL isnt good on Demo because I miss alot of M2" on another topic. Its the lack of counter to the perk (by Obsession taking a hit to reduce stacks) against actual good M2 killer players.

Sloppy - they should nerf hemorrhage.

Pain Res - It's fine. I could see changing it to 20%, but don't think its necessary.

STBFL - It could do with a slight reduction. 4% per token and stacks lost is 5/4/3.

UW - It doesn't seem to be a meta pick, I've felt like its frequency has dropped off. But yeah, I think the perk should get a nerf.

Other than UW, I think most of the perks are in pretty good place. A few could use a little bit of touch up, but being BHVR doesn't do touch ups and instead tends toward radical changes, we're likely to get substantial changes.

We had a rework of hangman's trick to take the perk from incredibly weak to a different type of incredibly weak and an overhaul of trickster that I don't think anyone was anticipating, so who knows what will happen.

Who runs stbfl for last on an instant down killer like Myers? XD You Oneshot people regardless so why would you need a short attack cooldown ^^

"It’s strange you’d state (after saying you didn’t see complaints about it 🤔) that complaints about WoO aren’t “really worthwhile.” So which is it? Have you seen complaints or not?"

Yeah... That's strange... It's almost as if those two statements completely contradict eachother...😂 Btw IDK what happened but everything they said disappeared all of a sudden and now it looks like I've been talking to myself.😭

Ultimate Weapon is nowhere near MFT to deserve a nerf (as some people where complaining). Its a balanced perk, as aura perks can be stronger if not for distortion. You can't win a match just because of Ultimate weapon: it just helps getting into chases faster .

Nerf STBF will nerf pig again. I don't think i need to say much.

If they want to change it - although i don't think its necessary - , limit to 6 stacks and make that when you hit the obsession the perk lose just one stack. It will be weaker, but usable.

You have it backwards.

First of all, there is no spirit in the world that is any good that is using STBFL, she doesn't need it, its a waste on her.

Blight does not need it and should not be using it. A GOOD blight, is hitting m2s from super far away, if you are m1ing as a blight into m2 you are taking too long to do the m1 and aren't a good blight.

For the others, you have it backwards. You don't want to be m1ing at all, you want to be m2ing, so if you have STBFL you aren't getting any stacks anyway, and if you are, you are playing the killer wrong.

You shouldn't get 3% haste until you decide to heal just because you were injured. If 3% is nothing as you and others claim then the change doesn't really matter does it? but it does matter we all know it. I don't use the perk because I know what its like to go against it as a killer.

Before you declare me a killer main or anything stupid like that, I will admit that I used to be but playing killer is a miserable experience these days now I'm pretty much a solo q survivor main. I am pretty a pretty staunch defender of buckle up + ftp. I will go to my grave defending that combo because I use it to counter hard tunneling. I don't us vs them perks. Never have never will that mentality is not healthy for the game period.

I don't really see how one unbalanced thing justifies another unbalanced mechanic. It'd be one thing of FTP + Buckle Up was an anti-tunnel mechanic, but it's not, you can use it in any chase provided you're healthy when you swoop in to save your teammate.

Tunnelling could still use some adjustments (though "stopping" it would be a fool's errand), but that doesn't justify something causing problems well outside the realm of someone being tunnelled out.

(Also the anti-camp mechanic does exactly what it's meant to, people just assumed it was for anything except for facecamping when it isn't.)

first one I agree with second one I do not.

the perk really doesn't need changes period outside of m2 killers being able to avoid losing stacks. Any even then if we're being honest it doesn't need them then either.