⭐HILLBILLY-REWORK⭐

They were. Back in the days, Twitter were full of Hillbilly complaints and so it was on Reddit and Dead by Daylight official forums.

It happened with Freddy Krueger now look at him. This happened with Spirit now look at her.

-Remove the overheat mechanic entirely.

Yes, please. It barely exists anyway and it only holds back Driftking Billy, although it would only work on a handful of maps anyway.

-While chainsaw dashing, increase FOV by 20%. Stacks with FOV perks.

With the introduction of a FOV slider this becomes unnecessary. Although, I would like to play him without the chainsaw less than 0.2 inches away from my face. Bring back the old animations and allow people to actually see what's right in front of them.

-Once per chainsaw dash, pressing M1 will increase the turning rate by 5x for ⅕ of a second (0.2s), allowing for a singular, very sharp turn. Immediately after pressing M1, your FOV decreases back to normal, a sound que is played and the chainsaw will only be able to injure healthy survivors for the rest of the dash, but will still down injured survivors.

Sounds interesting but what exactly do you mean by "increase the turning rate by 5x for ⅕ of a second (0.2s)"? Because if this number is taken from the base turn rate of the chainsaw than you'd only get a 32° turn in that time, which is better than nothing but I struggle to come up with a situation that would make this useful. Other than map mobility. But that is an issue that should be fixed by map reworks and not an extra mechanic, that will barely help with this issue.

-Decrease the sound of the chainsaw from the perspective of the Hillbilly by 50% of what it currently is.

I know what you mean. It's one of the reasons I play DBD on a comparatively low volume. Because if I don't, then the chainsaw is going to make deaf one of these days. But I'm not sure if 50% isn't a bit much. Make it 30% and let us test it on the PTB. Label it as quality of life improvements because that is what this comes down to.

-Make the Hillbilly 20% larger.

Bad idea. There are loops where you just barely can't be seen over and it would also look weird to see someone that tall glitch through the doorways on Lery's.

-Decrease the size and shape of his chainsaw hitbox.

Please, no! No, please! Don't make it worse! His hitbox isn't that big to begin with. It's one of the reasons he can be countered by the press of a single button that isn't even "E" (the other is the shape of his hitbox). If anything change the shape to remove that. But the hitbox of Hillbilly is really not that big to begin with, though it is a bit higher than necessary, which sometimes causes him to bump against the ceiling of some buildings or vegetation hanging from above. Pretty sure that's not what the devs had in mind.

-Pretty much rework every single add-on.

Yes. His addons are pretty pathetic. He has 3 genuinely good addons (LoPro Chains and both Engravings), 1 that's not bad but can lead to you relying on it (Heavy Clutch), which makes it a bit of a risky pick, a few very situational addons (Apex Muffler, Spiked Boots and Dad's Boots, Tuned Carburettor) and a bunch of useless and increadibly weak addons. I don't need any of the overheat addons. They are all completely worthless because you don't overheat anyway. I also don't know why I'd use 1 of my 2 addon slots for the Off-Brand Motor Oil, when it's only a little bit of a quality of life improvement that takes up space I'd need for a better addon. The Leafy Mash is one of these addons that genuinely have me thinking: "Why?" Why would anyone ever fall for that! They see where their team mate goes down! Is it really that hard to keep your eyes open for a few seconds, while you do gens? Black Grease is laughably bad and Mother's Helpers are kind of nice to have but don't really come in clutch. I mean, you already get stunned, which means the survivor is likely going to make distance to the next loop. In that case, the extra charge speed is useless because you can't counter Shift + W with it and when you get to the next loop, then you don't really need it. Because you need Doom Engravings or LoPros or better yet Doom Engravings and LoPros.

I would also like them to bring back the second flick (don't know, if it had a specific name), that they removed years before his rework. It basically allowed him to hit survivors right next to him by ending the chainsaw and turning immediately in their direction. This made countering him a bit harder than going 1 step to the left or right, which in my opinion is a good thing. It would also put an end to some survivors using his hitbox against him by bodyblocking him without any danger of getting hit. This can happen sometimes even today but it's incredibly inconsistent and more often than it helps you will lead to you bumping after the chainsaw has already ended.

Yeah so thats what people pretty much agreed should have changed. Just the addons. Like they are doing with blight now. But they decided to go the extra mile by making all his addons fairly bad. And adding this new mechanic and roar just burning resources on something that didnt need to happen.

You're not wrong. But mind you, BHVR increased Billy's camping capabilities again when they changed the overheat earlier this year. I and many others explicitly warned them that this would happen. With the AFC that is not as big of an issue anymore but if we're not going to use the overheat to limit camping, then why are we using it at all?

Billy's main issue is the fact, that he wasn't designed for this game. He was designed for what this game used to be. With about 10 maps and sometimes very forgiving collisions and little clutter. Now there are more than 40 maps. 75% of them are awful for this killer and the remaining 25% are somewhat ok. Also, survivors have become a lot better than they were in 2016. Meaning, a curving Hillbilly will not quite get the same hits as back then. Especially without Engravings. It's not getting better when you factor in, that survivors can pre drop pallets and delay him long enough to finish the game that way. One more reason to use LoPros, I guess.

The overheat mechanic at this point does nothing other than to nerf Driftking Billy. You will never overheat by curving (and believe me, I tried). But his mobility was nerfed by that. Not that it makes a big difference, when you can only go across the map in specific lines. Many maps have become somewhat similar to Lery's in that regard. There are 3-4 specific routes you can use for map mobility and that's pretty much it. Then you have maps like RPD... Where your ability is to break pallets slightly faster and GoJ, where your power is a so-so map mobility and sometimes a slightly faster pallet break at the cost of your lethality. And only when survivors don't know how bad this map really is.

In short: Billy aged like fine milk even without the rework.

Spirit did not get even close to as much butchered as Freddy and Billy... She is still the 3rd best killer in the game.

You are correct in those. On the addon front they already showed they can do interesting ideas with billys stealth saw addon. And lopro to go through pallets. Hell lopro didnt exist in original billy. And its one of his best addons now. I have faith on the addon front.

For camping again bubba is king. (And now michael with tombstone as well) and we have anti facecamp. Other killers like trickster screw you more when your being tunneled for how fast they can chew through your endurance and hit you again. Billy has to actually catch back up after a saw or m1.

Also another aspect of him changed some people forget. All the animations. His fov got narrowed to add more counterplay to his saw. So shadowborn is basically basekit on him. And now he feels like hes lethargic looking down all the time and with his limp. Hell even the roar they just thought would be funny to add. They ruined so much of his overall basekit flow outside of just overheat and his addons.Which i hope they are looking to change again.

Very well put ^^

I also thought about AFC, effectively making his overheat redundant. So maybe it should just be removed after all, even if it won't restore Billy to his past prime.

No, the animations where way smoother and you did not have that whole looking down and what not thing, it was just way nicer to play.

Sure, combinations of engravings and recharge/cooldown would work to, but require some more mechanical skill. For players only playing billy from time to time (like me), it was usually much easier to just use double recharge addons to get good results (noob friendly, you could say). But that was it, engravings and recharge/cooldown, the other addons unused, useless, never to be seen (unless killer was meming).

He needs a complete rework to his addons, his base power is fine. When they did his addon pass, they removed most of the small qol addons that addressed the inherent penalties of the chainsaw, without compensating for that. He suffers from that to this day.