Perks have no effect unless they are equipped.

What is crawl leave and light pt? lmao

Hook destruction is almost a non-issue because you can just bleed someone out if you really have to, you'd have to explain these new made up things, unless crawl leave is... survivors crawling away because you've decided to slug, or do you mean "heal teching" where a survivor heals another survivor as they're crawling out the gate to prevent pick-up? If so, sure let killers override the healing action in the exit gate area.

Ah 😅 my bad lol

Because boons have built-in counterplay. Shattered hope is just the nuke button.

It's like facing a wall when picking up vs. Lightborn. One of the two just deletes the mechanic entirely, but it has innate counters.

you need to have like 2 distortion users on your team to not be able to break a 3 gen against a killer without slowdown perk(s). tbf i have no relevant arguments here just pointed out 3 genning is bound to perks; many survivor perks are counters to killer gameplay choices like slugging tunnelling 3 genning and camping, so.

Most Survivors can't seem to navigate maps without WoO either. I hate to say they're being dumbed down but when you're most popular perk is a handicap...

It's more likely they're trying to get on top of future problems rather than past ones. One of the most common killer requests is that maps be smaller, which BHVR seem to be taking into account with recent reworks. A consequence of this is that gens will naturally spawn closer together and opportunities to set up 3 gens from the start will be something alot of killers naturally fall into. Deja Vu shouldn't have to become a prerequisite to a game.

Reading someones aura isn't something that can cause the game to go into stalemate, and it doesn't remove all options available to the survivor.

Tunneling off the hook used to be an entirely uncounterable tactic, forcing BT to be used in every build, resulting in survivors getting chastised if they didn't run it. So it was made basekit.

3 gens can be a game breaking problem as we saw with Chess Merchant. Deja Vu helps with it, but it can't be solely relied upon.

Without a similar basekit safety net for 3 gens, (that can break a stalemate without just handing the win to survivors) there's always going to be the opportunity for another Chess Merchant.

Because the game shouldn't be decided by random guessing.

Killer camping? Did someone remember to bring Reassurance?

Killer 3 genning? Did someone bring potential energy/deja vu?

Killer slugging? Sure hope you have unbreakable equipped.

Killer finding everyone with ultimate weapon? Should have run calm spirit.

Killer on hex build? Why aren't you running counterforce?

Killer tunneling you out? You should have run off the record and decisive strike.

It's bad game design. If the killer have strategies that need to be countered by perks or else the survivors lose, the game comes down to whether the survivors guessed right in their perk selection. This especially becomes problematic when you look at soloq and having no idea whether you should be the anti-tunneler or anti-camper.

Perks should give advantages, but whether you have a perk or not should not decide the game. Some of the above list are absolutely fine, as Seraphor already mentioned most of these don't break the game. You can still deal with a killer who has aura reading if you don't have distortion, and a killer can still deal with a survivor if they do have distortion, it just creates an advantage.

Compare this to 3 genning. In games were the survivors happen to have potential energy, they win easily. If they don't, it's a slog. The perk doesn't give an advantage, it decides the game.

3-genning is very different from any of that tho. Scream/ Hex/ Aura perks are limited and have base game ways to play around. Once a 3-gen is set up, and if survivors aren’t running Prove Thyself or Deju Vu, then the game dissolves into a war of attrition.

My bad I didn’t fully read your post before commenting. You’re right tho there is just too much things to counter to focus on bringing mediocre anti-3gen perks

I think part of the problem with conversations around this topic is that a balanced solution rarely comes at the same time. BHVR makes an adjustment one way and it takes time for them to find the appropriate balance to bring up the otherside to compensate. It eventually happens, but in the mean time, one side has to deal with added features that benefit their opposition. For example, over the course of 2023, survivors have gotten the visual terror radius (a QOL addition that can be used for non QOL purposes to enhance gameplay against the TR of killers) as well as the UI Hud (which eliminates a large portion of the information gap beween solo Q and SWF), and the anti-face camping feature (which was more to address a largely unpopular playstyle - that the majority of either side disliked). In return, in 2024 killer will be getting a FOV slider (another QOL addition that will likely also be used for the benefit of gameplay elements by reducing the ability of survivors to perfom certain techs and immerse/stealth themselves.)

Another issue is a very human one, neither side wants nerfs/adjustments without the other side also getting hit - its a very common reaction. Look at any conversation around balance in the DBD community and you will almost always see arguments about "Well if X is getting nerfed then Y also needs to be nerfed." Likewise, neither side wants the other side getting buffs. When the UI hud news was released a portion of the killer community was firmly against it - saying that it ruined the fog of war element of DBD (even though many of those same people agreed that solo q was in a much worse state compared to SWF at the time.) Likewise, I suspect a similar conversation will appear once the FOV slider is introduced.

At the end of the day we have to have some degree of faith that BHVR knows what they are doing.