MANY PLAYERS DEFENDING CHEATING, WE NEED PROTECTION FOR VANILLA PLAY

This is why i am one of the advocates for a replay/recording function even with me being one of the lucky ones who can record.

Sadly not, I played on low and the thing was always dark on PC, I think the problem did not even exist on some consoles? Not too sure about that one, but on Pc regardless of the settings I used you could not see anything.

Of course it is allowed, since they cannot do anything to prevent using it...

I see both sides of this argument.

While it's true us consolers cannot apply filters or mess around with frame rates, for some reason DBD has very few built in graphic options (and for sound and for controllers...) that are very common nowadays in successful games.

But the argument of "just buy a PC" is not viable right now either, not without Cross Progression available. In the unlikely event Cross Progression comes, then yeah maybe. I think many consolers feel quite trapped and boxed in, just because they happen to run DBD on their machines. Choice of platform shouldn't matter as much as it does with this game.

I'd say it is, just as much as people who lower their graphics to the lowest possible settings in shooters to remove all bushes and grass so they can spot people miles away when those people would otherwise be able to use grass as cover to approach more safely.

It really makes the game a lot more sucky when you are forced to make the game look like absolute garbage just to stay competitive.

You're essentially making their experience a lot more terrible by soft forcing them to downgrade their gaming experience to stay competitive for the sake of trying to get an unfair edge over the them...I'd say it's considered unsportsmanlike. You aren't just playing the game as intended, you're directly strongly encouraging them to have to do the same to keep the balance fair. That's affecting their gaming experience in the real world.

So there are two elements.

1. You're effectively setting the bar for people to be encouraged to lower their gaming experience to stay competitive.

2. You're taking away their strategy of utilizing the game world in a clever way. They go out of their way to duck into the shadows, but nope, you can see them without any issue while they CANNOT do the same to you. It's cheap; it's dirty. Literally an unfair advantage.

Welcome aboard! He is coming from the fact that filter use is a very popular thing in the community. He's just bringing up the topic of how common place it's becoming. Almost every streamer has their brightness up incredibly high where even pitch black shadows look clear as day. It does make their game look like total crap, however.

Just clarifying that it's not someone with a conspiracy theory - filter use is fairly common here.

Here is an example

You can essentially see anyone from any distance as long as they are in view, and you can make their clothes super bright vs whiting out everything else.

Filters are not cheating. They dont provide any information that isnt already in the game. If making colors look different is cheating, is SWF cheating too? After all you are using a 3rd party program that grants a competitive advantage. I wouldn't agree with that but the logic is sound.

Doesn't really bother me since it's not some hardcore competitive game. Just pointing out what they are trying to bring up. I think it's lame personally, but it's not really worth worrying about it. Devs won't do anything about it anyway, and I'm in it for the theme as opposed to sweating to win. That's why my ghostie wears the og black outfit instead of the super good bush camo with the scarecrow mask. Less effective? Sure...but ya can't beat the classic look!

Nah this game is just straight up disgusting without filters. Literally just turning gamma and brightness up 10% each makes you feel like you can actually see all objects.

Anyway, stay in the dark sewage water gameplay bud.

The grass is literally setting the graphics on low...

Again, I'm talking about people who modify the game files to lower the setting further than what ingame options allow. This entire discussion is about using modifications to the game outside of what's possible ingame.

Let's make this abundantly clear first of all - your definition of cheating is "adding cute alternative images to perks" and "making the game brighter or easier to percieve for those with issues with sight" as cheating, and your intentional omission of what you mean by "cheating" is incredibly telling. Nobody is out here in support of blatant cheats - speed hacks, wall, that sort of thing. What the community is entirely indifferent to is perk images or brightness/color alterations.

It's not a "huge" advantage. It's at best a slight advantage or a levelling of the playing field. If I brighten my game with my monitor's hardware settings, should I get banned too for having a "huge" advantage? Or am I just playing the game brighter than it was intended?

This is where your suggestion stopped being ridiculous and began being dangerous. Requiring players to hand over personal details like a phone number, which will have to be verified, checked, and stored long-term by the devs, is a huge cost for preventing people from swapping out the pictures of their perks to slightly different ones, both in terms of actual money but also in man hours to create and ensure this system is working and will not end up leaking the phone numbers of tens of thousands of players, a not insignificant amount of which are in vulnerable groups like LGBTQ+ folk.

Even presuming the system works perfectly and everyone is somehow on board with handing a video game developer their phone number, which many won't be, how many chapter releases would you like to forgo whilst this system is implemented? Two? Three? Maybe a round four?

And, more realistically, the system won't work perfectly. Even should it not leak private data, cheaters will, as they always have, find a workaround. The implication that tying your game to a phone number will prevent cheating is ridiculous because nothing will ever truly prevent cheating once and for all short of perhaps the servers shutting down and the game being done. The risks for a complete lack of benefit highlight that any suggestion along these lines should be heavily and seriously reconsidered.

Love how you call other people overdramatic while you are unable to accept that the devs allowed filters and won't ban anymore for it, same with crosshair, but you still cannot over it... Get over it dude, it is not cheating if they allow it. Also nice hyperbel, yeah sure filters make it thaaaaaat much easier xD

No you just want it because you think you are entitled to.

That does not mean, that you are right with your statement (which you are not).

How does changing icons in the UI make me play better? (Hint: it does not). Those are just png which do nothing to the exe. They are files you can access by just opening the game's folder. If you don't know how tools like Nightlight work, you should Google it before you make assumptions about it. Oh and btw: you can also copy the png files to the folders without tools, but it takes longer.

You say changing monitor settings are fine, but I can do the same with AMD adrenaline (my GPU driver), which just applies the settings when it detects me playing DBD, which just adds QOL for me (I do not neet to revert monitor settings after playing). It does not change the exe. This is cheating in your opinion (which it is not according to the devs).

I do not support true cheaters (speed hackers, lag switchers, teleports etc) at all, btw. But your definition of "cheats" is so ridiculous. Not to mention your "methods" which will "cure" dbd from said cheaters. You might be fine in giving up your phone number, but I bet a large majority is not. Not to mention that doing so probably violates a lot of laws like EU privacy laws. Maybe you don't care in the US, but you are not the world.

I get the impression you are on one hand ignorant and on the other hand envious that PC players can do simple costumisation to the game like icons while you are stuck with vanilla dbd.

If it's the first reason, then do yourself and us a favor and consult Google. If it's the latter: maybe advocate for more costumisation options instead instead of hating and framing those who use these legally.

Mine were all dealt with as of today. Maybe I am lucky. I don't know.

If it was before they added in-game report feedback, you will never know unless the cheater was on steam.

I don’t think we are the ones you need to convince OP, it’s the devs.

Especially when they have come out to say they are ok with people using crosshairs which would probably fall under “cheating” by your definition.

You could acquire BHVR, then you have the freedom to implement whatever vision you have for the game. Just know that I wouldn’t play dbd if someone like you was in charge and decided to implement draconian measures like phone number verification.

The EULA directly states, as I quoted before, that unless they allowed it... Which they did. So you are barking up the wrong tree here.

Well then, unfortunately the devs don't agree with your definition of cheating, as well as the vast majority of other players, therefore tough luck buddy.

No need. But thanks.