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Reasons why MMR is COMPLETELY WRONG in this game.

BaroneMaximus
BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 475
edited December 2023 in Feedback and Suggestions

As survivor you get MMR by escaping so if you play as solo your escape rate will be lower so it goes like this: You die - you lose mmr - you get worse survs - you die again because survs don't do gens and do worse chases - you can't complete all the gens so you end up dying or drawing (AT BEST) by escaping through hatch so you are not still getting MMR and the cicle here begins anew.


To get MMR easily you play SWF (THE MOST UNBALANCED THING EVER MADE IN VIDEOGAMES) So your escape rate increase - you keep playing with goodish players so gens are completed, chases last longer cause you help eachother - you escape more often - you get lods of MMR for free. You start getting sweatier killer who will ONLY play Nurse and Blight slugging and camping and tunneling and NOBODY WILL HAVE FUN.


As killer you have an easier life vs solos and bad swf so you will play chill and start winning - your MMR will increase easier - you will eventually stop gettin solos and bad swf because they CANNOT get any high MMR as solos or bad swf - you start getting ONLY SWF ABUSERS who JUST play to ONLINE BULLY PPL and have fun of THEM and NOT trying to enjoy the game so you start playing by camping and tunneling more - you start losing and/or drawing more - you WILL NOT have fun anymore neither the ppl you go against since it won't be anymore focused on enjoying the game but ONLY on WINNING and KILLING and even if you try to have fun YOU CAN'T because you will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS get t-baggers and clickers and SWF ABUSERS who will RUIN your games and make everything horrible JUST BEACAUSE THEY HAVE FUN BY BULLYING PPL ONLINE THIS IS CYBER BULLISM.


So you get rid of MMR and then you can do what you want with SWF OR you start balancing the game for SOLOS AND SWF PROPERLY by NERFING SWF and BUFFING SOLOS in a way that will make killer NOT FORCED TO PLAY EVERY GAME SWEATY BUT ALSO FUN.

Comments

  • pigslittlepet
    pigslittlepet Member Posts: 483

    I agree completely that mmr sucks royaly. It has no place in a party game. If dbd was truly a competitive game it would be fine but it's to imbalanced to be competitive. But that hard truth is the devs will never admit they were wrong about it so it's here to stay. It's a pride thing and we can't do jack about it.

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634

    I mean I agree that MMR is not able to detect a skill full player because you can get a 5 Gen chase and still die and the hame will count that as a loss, despite you clearly being better than the killer... However I find it weird to call "playing with friends" the most unbalanced thing ever made in video games...

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,291

    Well thats why playing to win is a bad idea. Play to have fun.

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 475

    I played videogames of all kinds in my life. I'm 31 and i play since i was 5 and i NEVER EVER EVER encountered something most unbalanced and broken as SWF. Don't call it "play with friends" because it's not. I played with my friends and we had fun, we didn't go around like dogs with flashlights and bodyblocks, we were just doing gens and having fun WITH the killer not OF the killer. You LITERALLY CANNOT WIN vs SWF and this is BROKEN. Name a single game were there is a feature that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to win and i'll agree with you that SWF is not the most broken feature ever, but i bet my A** you can't find any because I KNOW there is none.

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 475

    How to have fun when you try to play with non-meta builds and everytime you get ppl t-bagging and running around you while also doing all the gens and then t-bag again at the exit waiting till the last second to get out? :)

  • Archol123
    Archol123 Member Posts: 4,634
    edited December 2023

    Play a stronger killer and master it I guess? Sure playing against 4 well coordinated survivors can be tough, but then you just need to put in more effort... It is totally possible to win against a well coordinated SWF, as people in comp do it constantly... As harsh as it sounds, this is basically just a skill issue... This bullying strat basically only works because of the skill difference... I've yet to see players like Knightlight or LilithOmen to get bullied by those squads...

    On a side note... SWF literally means survive with friends... So why would I not call it play with friends :D:D Chill my man...

  • pigslittlepet
    pigslittlepet Member Posts: 483

    They will strangle the life out of this game before they admit they were wrong about mmr. They've put to much into it.

  • adaw0ng
    adaw0ng Member Posts: 720

    I agree with your take on MMR but asking to nerf swf is not clever at all, buffing solo to try to be as similar as swf providing players with in-game tools and info would be the best move imo. Nobody plays with friends to be handicapped for doing so, how could anybody wrap their heads around that.

    Also don’t throw around the term bully that lightly over somebody emoting in a videogame. Nobody calls anybody a bully if they emote on Fortnite, spam mastery on LoL and any other game. Bullying is going out of your way to attack somebody and harass somebody, insulting them and so on. If you want to call out bullying in this game, go denounce those players who insult others in scoreboard chat throwing derogatory terms and slurs, wish the worst things to each other over a videogame, and target with malicious intentions such as holding hostage situations. Saying that people who play a multiplayer videogame with their friends are bullies is just wild and obtuse.

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 3,496
    edited December 2023

    I disagree with this notion, as if you talk to high skill survivors, all they face is Nurse and Blight, because they are the only killers able to pose a reasonable challenge.

    If your MMR is lower, you go against worse killers. I rarely see a Nurse or Blight, because I'm not a high skill survivor.

    So MMR is doing what its supposed to be doing, and I'm reminded of an old league of legends saying. If you can't carry your team, you're at the level you belong.

    Is it infuriating when you're being camped on hook and your team is hovering around, preventing the AFC, not committing, wasting time and your hook stages for 0 gen progress? Yes it is. However that's your fault for getting caught in the first place. I'm too altuistic for my own good, and the correct way to play, is if your team are amoebas, you need to not take risks for them, because the trade isn't worth it.


    EDIT: And yes, I did type this jusr after being hook camped on Midwich by a Doctor after saving 4 camped players off hook, escaping him long enough to make him break chase, getting 1 or the 2 gens we had done single handed with 2 more at 50% progress by my hand... only to watch my teammates wander on the edge of his TR for 2 whole minutes while I died on hook.