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Camping and tunneling
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People say their not having fun because of poorly implemented balance and the immediate response is to alienate them rather than listen because they are the future of the game. Remembering of cause that without them there is no game. Right.
@Bossgirl774 Rather than wait for fairly balanced and consistent game play which will never happen because /Killer hand-holding meta. Just play Killer and your gaming life will be immediately less stressful! =D
I recommend Myres. Easiest killer in game till you get the hang of Nurse blink muscle memory, at which point she becomes the easiest killer in game.
Freddy is not a good choice unless you want to troll, and / or challenge yourself. Best to play Survivor in that case.
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Tunneling a survivor down and getting them out of the game is the best way to slow the game down. 3 survivors don't work as efficient as 4 survivors.
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If killer is OP, then just play killer instead.11
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The game isn't even remotely killer sided. Complaining about camping shows a misunderstanding of the game fundamentally. This is simply a lack of experience. You need to practice and get better at the game.
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Blueberry said:
The game isn't even remotely killer sided. Complaining about camping shows a misunderstanding of the game fundamentally. This is simply a lack of experience. You need to practice and get better at the game.
I've played dbd for almost 2 years im lvl 50 pres 3 so max its not because im bad its because you or your friends are always gonna get caught and its annoy if you cant save them which saving them is part of the game.
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Also i've tried playing killer its boring to me i play nurse if anything and GAMES NEED TO BE BALANCED its not A fun game when im staring at a killer and hearing them breath in my ear for the whole game... I dont need advice to be killer i need advice on how to wreck campers.. i would moon walk but im atill working on it2
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Here we go again with the 5000th post about camping and tunneling
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If the killer camps punish them by working gens. It's really not that complicated. Does it suck when you're the one being camped? Of course. But survivors have the counter. All they have to do is use it.7
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Just play killer then, after some time you will realize who the powerrole actually isBossgirl774 said:Im about to quit dbd again because of the freaking camping ect. Its annoying how they rub it in your face too. wow devs nice job on making to were the killers are too OP too.... and they4 -
Read the comments i think being killer is boring i like being chasedMaster said:
Just play killer then, after some time you will realize who the powerrole actually isBossgirl774 said:Im about to quit dbd again because of the freaking camping ect. Its annoying how they rub it in your face too. wow devs nice job on making to were the killers are too OP too.... and they0 -
The best way to deal with camping killers is to not get caught, and don't let it get to you. If you know how much it bothers you, thats just feeding them. Alternately, if you aren't the one being camped, rush those gens! They won't camp once they aren't getting good returns from it. If you try to go for the camped survivor, they just get more points, and are more likely to pip.
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Always happy to be of service.
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camping is a huge issue I agree. i play as a killer and a survivor i never need to camp, honestly killers are easier than survivors.2
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On the subject has anyone else noticed a huge surge in camping lately?4
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Run kindred so your team knows you’re being camped
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@Mister_Holdout said:
Always happy to be of service.Thank you for camping me good sir.
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Why do you like being chased? Because it's scary or thrilling? The only reason I play survivor is to recover from the hard af red rank killer matches with a good power role. I don't know if I could find chasing fun considering it's the same jungle gym pattern, the same killer shack movement etc etc. Behaviour definitely needs more diversity.
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@MineAntoiya chases are the funnest part for me and every chase helps me improve my survivor gameplay.
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I guess my chasing ability has sort of leveled out then. I don't think I gain much from being in a chase. I definitely gain much more from watching experienced players explain the loops, where to look, what to do when than from even playing the game lol
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Face Camping and Tunneling are terms made up to describe the huge power imbalance heavily leaning towards Killers.
Killers are left feeling like they shouldn't guard their freshly hooked body because it doesn't allow Survivors a fair chance to perform their rescue role.
- Punishment for Face Camping is other Survivors working on Gens and escaping = De-Pip for Killer
Killers are left feeling like they shouldn't chase down the Survivor who was just rescued from the hook (Tunneling) because it doesn't allow the Survivor who just escaped a fair chance at resuming their game.
- Punishment for Tunneling is other Survivors working on Gens and escaping = De-Pip for Killer.
However, neurologically defective psychopaths physically don't have the part of the brain that creates or has the capacity to understand what empathy is so the only incentive for them not to Tunnel or Face Camp, the only question they must ask themselves:
"is the enjoyment gained by causing misery to Survivors by Face Camping / Tunneling more important than putting pressure on the rest of the Survivors so they don't run gens while Face Camping / Tunneling and power the exit gates to leave causing Killer to De-Pip"
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Lmao play killer to make your game less stressful? Well I think you are in for a rather unpleasant surprise. Playing killer is many times more stressful than playing survivor. So much that most killer mains who play as survivor do so specifically when they need to have a chill easy game after going through hell against an optimal 4-man swf one match after another after another.e8Lattice said:Just play Killer and your gaming life will be immediately less stressful! =D
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dude...
camping and tunneling has been nerfed so many times now that i actually lost count.
its a strategy killers use to win, so use the counters and make them lose when they do camp / tunnel.
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Yes! Yes, it is. Absolutely. Everytimee8Lattice said:"is the enjoyment gained by causing misery to Survivors by Face Camping / Tunneling more important than putting pressure on the rest of the Survivors so they don't run gens while Face Camping / Tunneling and power the exit gates to leave causing Killer to De-Pip"
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@e8Lattice said:
Face Camping and Tunneling are terms made up to describe the huge power imbalance heavily leaning towards Killers.Face Camping and Tunneling are terms that existed for online games eternal. Survivors use it to make killers feel bad. Smart killers end up learning how to ignore these meaningless words.
Killers are left feeling like they shouldn't guard their freshly hooked body because it doesn't allow Survivors a fair chance to perform their rescue role.
For people that have empathy, yes, this is very true. Us psychopaths though, do not see the use of empathy.
- Punishment for Face Camping is other Survivors working on Gens and escaping = De-Pip for Killer
Very true. Moving on.
Killers are left feeling like they shouldn't chase down the Survivor who was just rescued from the hook (Tunneling) because it doesn't allow the Survivor who just escaped a fair chance at resuming their game.
I chase whomever is available. Unless a survivor has been annoying throughout the game, I don't go out of my way to knock someone down again. I need my BBQ tokens.
- Punishment for Tunneling is other Survivors working on Gens and escaping = De-Pip for Killer.
Very true. Moving on.
However, neurologically defective psychopaths physically don't have the part of the brain that creates or has the capacity to understand what empathy is so the only incentive for them not to Tunnel or Face Camp, the only question they must ask themselves:
MMmmmmmmNnnnnnn. Us psychopaths don't care for the fun of others. Survivors shouldn't either.
"is the enjoyment gained by causing misery to Survivors by Face Camping / Tunneling more important than putting pressure on the rest of the Survivors so they don't run gens while Face Camping / Tunneling and power the exit gates to leave causing Killer to De-Pip"
Play the game how you want to play it. If that means you want to give survivors free escapes, then that's you. The other 95% will play killers as it's meant to be played.
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Peoples tunneling is not strategy it just being bad go for fresh meat instead of one that was sitting on the hook all day I mean atleast dont tunnel off hook its far from strats and your gonna get banned ive goten atleast 7 killers banned from gameplay in one month yet it doesnt fix the problem am and here they are buffing killers even more because they complain about hit box BOI DEVS WANNA MAKE IT WHERE YOU CAN HIT SOMEONE ACROSS MAP
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It is still a strat, and it isn’t bannable, those killers got banned for other reasons.
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No its called abusing game mechs and they got reported for camping the hook and tunneling so yes it is bannable
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That is new to me. I will still facecamp toxic survivors tho.
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@Bossgirl774 camping and tunneling isn’t gameplay abuse, devs have already said they aren’t banning for it. That’s like me saying the survivors are being banned for looping or gen rushing, but that isn’t against the rules either.
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Okay that I get yet be careful of your actions
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Thats a lie it game mechs abuse if they didnt care why would they try to fix it...
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@Bossgirl774 they’ve also tried to fix looping, so by your logic that is game abuse and is bannable.
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Better not make killer mad I guess.
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i need new friends they told me it was bannable also i do belive pallet looping is bannable and your thinking of window looping
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@Bossgirl774 I was stating looping in general, pallet looping isn’t bannable. By chance are you new? (Not trying to be rude)
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srry my phone whent whack and made me post dat anyway no im not new i just should have been more specific anyway i wont be messaging for awhile because my phone is bout to die
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When I play as killer, I don't camp. Even if it's a toxic survivor. Though, if I hook a toxic survivor, I'll give them 3-5 whacks. If they disconnect, I laugh to myself because they thought I'd camp them. If they're still there, I'll continue hunting my next victim.
If I'm a survivor and I get hooked by a camping killer, I'll hang on as long as I can and hope the others fix a few gens. I'm a solo player though, so often they'll try to save me and I can't tell them not too.
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Sorry but that's the role of the killer, tunneling isn't bad, camping is just boring, not fun at all, if you can't take the heat, don't play.
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I hope you're ready for the new camping/slugging meta with the new DS :D
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Yep, my new main is Freddy with monitor, sloppy, nurses, and 3rd seal. Slug all day with freddy.
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This is not a movie.
This is a game = fun, im not gonna pay 20$ for get mad for a little kid.
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He will obviously get destroyed, it's like a killer main who has NEVER played survivor switch to survivor main, he's obviously gonna get destroyed.
So no
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I hate this things too though. If everyone would play like me then the community would be amazing lol
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Agreed. People seem to take dbd like serious business. It's a freaking game. It's supposed to be "fair fun" for BOTH sides. You are NOT a killer. You are a person playing a damn video game. If you feel like you have to dominate other people in a game you might wanna see a doctor. Like seriously... Dbd is *unplayable* for "normal" people right now.
Every killer facecamps nodding his head or tunnels right off the hook. If you win fair and square without camping and tunneling - fine. But no normal person will waste their spare time pleasing some psycho kid online who camps/tunnels at 5 gens with active ruin.
My friend wanted to try dbd today. She played 5 games.
1st game: Facecamper nodding his head till she was dead (Hillbilly)
2nd game: Wraith who waited behind the hook cloaked. Tunneled her right off the hook.
3rd game: Pig who waited for the unhook crouching behind a rock.
4th game: Hag who put virtually every trap around the hook AND never left the hook.
5th game: Trapper who trapped the hook and never left as well.
BEhaviour wants dbd to go for another 5 years? Not a chance. People may come and go every now and then but most active players are bored already and most normal people who play multiple online games think dbd is trash so how is dbd supposed to go for 5 years?
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Killers tunnel because it is effective unless certain perks like Borrowed Time or the new Decisive Strike are in play, but since the killer doesn't know they're in play until they've already committed to tunneling that survivor, it rarely changes their behaviour.
Killers camp because they know the scoring and ranking system puts massive emphasis on unhooks, forcing survivors to try to unhook even when the sane thing to do is rush the generators and get out. This also synergizes well with tunneling.
The survivor's grinding perk, We're Gonna Live Forever, is built around mindlessly hookfarming your teammates. It doesn't care if the unhook is safe, and while it claims to give you a token if you take a hit for a teammate, the only times it seems to work is when you bodyblock a killer on the way to the hook, forcing him to hit you and thus usually doing more damage to your team than anything else, or just unhooking right in front of the killer and then taking a hit or two afterwards. Actually taking a hit for a survivor in a chase doesn't seem to do anything.
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That's not true. Tunneling is NOT effective as it generates 0% map pressure. It works, but it isn't effective.
Scenario against optimal survivors:
3 survivors will rush gens while the 4th survivor gets tunneled. Tunneling an optimal survivor to death takes several minutes which is enough for optimal survivors to finish at least MOST of the gens and sometimes even all gens so you basically lost already.
I had one of those games against a camping/off the hook tunneling Freddy with an endgame build:
Remember me, NOED, Ruin, BBQ
He tunneled a good player all game so I rushed the gens with the others (4 solo players btw). Guess what: We finished all gens AND opened the gate. That's when he finally managed to tunnel his obsession to death.
I also noticed the killer was streaming so I was able to watch the game from his pov and he was actually expecting to win that way judging by how upset he was when he came to the gate seeing all the tbagging survivors.
Result: It only works against non-optimal survivors.
And if the players are not optimal you can win the fair way anyways so why camp/tunnel? It makes no sense.
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WGLF requires you to be like... 2 meters from an injured survivor when you get hit to get the stack. You ALSO get stacks for saving people from bear traps! (I learned this recently.) But yes, basically everything you've said here is accurate. If i see someone injured, and know they were recently unhooked, I'm not going to just ignore them because i know they were just unhooked, I'm still going to kill them, because they have bad luck, and I found them again. That's not tunneling. That's bad luck for you. Get over it.
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