So we gonna nerf killers but not balance survivors

Well, and you have to pray you don't get those bots in esteroids that are perfect to loop and win every single chase...

Tbh, playing survivor is so extremely boring because it's so easy. I suck as survivor, dont get me wrong, but that still is really easy. You barely get any skillchecks, to the point if i get 2 or 3 when repairing or healing i was lucky. There's not challenge at all except maybe run faster than the killer (which i'm bad at and find extremely boring as well)... Everything is handed so easy to survivors, and every update only nerf killers over and over again...

Sadly, as someone said, the ratio of players is 4:1 for survivor:killer, and that means that keeping the majority happy and letting them have an easy game is more beneficial for sales than having an actual balanced and challenging game.

I really want survivor to be harder by its mechanics rather than buffing the killers, but nerfing the survivors wouldn't be bad either. Add more challenge to the tasks, more skillchecks, more objectives... idk... do something to not be me keeping my m1 pressed on a gen and waiting for time to pass...

Hi, I'm killer main. Before complaining about all this new gen thingy I'm gonna try it on the field, maybe it's a good thing, maybe it's not and time will tell, but let me be honest here:

If survivors end the game with three close gens together, they screwed up. Map management (and gen management) it's one of the main objective of the game and, as a survivor, you gotta pay attention to that.

Not to mention that you actually CAN end a 3 gen situation. You can. Happened countless time to me, but of course it's better to avoid to end like that.

Survivors can't tap gens, ok, understood. Will the maps shrink then? 'cause most killers can't even cover 3 gens and survivors will repair generators in seconds.

To be fair, I'm worried about this update. I'm gonna try that, then judge, but as I said: 3 genning is mostly a survivor's fault, let's face it.

EDIT: for those who say "it's easy", do you play as killer or do you die as survivor? Just asking.

While 3 gens can be a result of survivors rushing their objective, if a killer does the same ie tunneling then it's considered a valid strategy and even endorsed.

If the killer decides to rush their objective they are rewarded with an easy win, if the survivors compensate by rushing gens then they are punished.

If the game had built in comms then I would agree the survivors are at fault.

Another strength of F13 was picking the killer from the pool of players in the lobby. Everyone has to be on their toes. It removes the ability to coordinate and plan ahead which defeats the entire premise and purpose of the game. It's also not perfect because if you're in their with friends it lead to problems but there must be a good way of mitigating that.

The deva did say using the fov slider will come at a cost. You'll be more susceptible to blinds. So it's a basekit buff, but there's a cost involved that might dissuade some killers from even using it.

The problem is they are balancing around player feedback surveys rather than balancing through the stats, like they said they would not do. Killers that statistically didn't need any changes got changes. A playstyle that killers had that was valid given the asymmetrical nature of the game was removed while survivors can now utilize any sort of strategy without any restriction. You need someone like Patrick in there who understood what fun was and what dbd thrives on, the drama, the fast death game, the ultra chaos and mental tribulations that comes with dbd. You see the anti camp mechanic is exactly like the early game change mentioned in many q and a's through out pre sbmm days, while I agree with Patrick on this he deemed that a corrupt basekit idea would not be fun whatsoever given how much they tested the damn prototype. Well he was right, the same as the anti camp we have now, removing a lot of the fun in the game overall. They need to stop balancing based off of one players struggles (the killer, or say an individual survivor). Doing this promotes a lack of variety and no reason to further play the game, DBD used to feel so free but now it feels like I'm in chains playing the game and it has become so predictable to where the killer is a generator sorcerer while the survivor has became a hand held experience for the sake of bad players who regardless of any help would end up still losing the game regardless.

You could be blinded without shadowborn from outside of your fov too, so Idk why this is a big deal.

Survivors have to know first.

Don't forget the new Shadowborn gives a haste effect if blinded so you can catch up to that person who had the bravery to blind you before your haste ends if you know the direction they went.

And that's why I said "it's their right". c: For this legit right, 1 of 5 people didn't actually play, didn't enjoy the game and quitted a little while later. This game, like everything in life, have it's problems. As a player (and a killer) I think is my responsability to play fairly as much as I can to let people have fun and play the game too.

If you rush (and justify rushing) you're justifying the killers that tunnels, slugs and 3 gens from the start, 'cause you're doing the exact same things, I already said that. Of course it's your right to use a map badly designed (three times in a row) against the killer, doesn't mean it's healthy for the game or fair for the other player (the killer) in the same measure as it's not right to tunnel a survivor right from the start and not letting them have fun at all.

Even if we play against each other, we play together. That's what I'm saying from the start. If the game lacks of balance, you can intervene as a player, playing with and for the others. But, as I said before, if you fight fire with gasoline... You got toxic games with toxic people and toxic matches. c: That's it, and that's all.

GLHF!

I'm assuming you don't care about cool things, but strong things so

we had: rebecca perks (oh my hyperfocus), renato perks, gabriel soma perks (oh my made for this), nicolas cage perks, ellen perks, anti FACE-camp, old borgo, skull merchant´s map, toba, new BNP, new anti 3gen, new garden of joy (literally stronger than before) etc

and remember, not being meta competitive OP crutch power doesn´t mean being bad, vittorio perks are amazing

hyperfocus and reassurance are super strong what are you talking about man, yes, i was talking about background player, troubleshooter anss scavenger are really good, and mft is not even bad now, it´s just not super OP like before, you can still get the endurance and its a really good anti tunnel, plot twist and dramaturgy are insanely good, but it looks goofy so you probably don´t notice it (scene partner is ok), lucky star is decent, trap is really good if you´re in a dead zone or need to make a lot of distance (like the new alan wake perk) and lightfooted is not bad, it´s decent and works well in the firsst step of a chase

anti face camp is indeed a good thing, it makes proxy camping harder too, old borgo was really good for survivors, not that strong but not weak, toba has a lot of random trash and some really good loops if you know how to run them, not that strong but not weak, new BNP is not just a nerf, it´s a rework, and the 10% you remove from the gen can´t be regressed like the old bnp, new anti 3 gen is not that good? it literally removes the 3gen holding, how is it not good? and goj changed a lot, the main building is even stronger now

i don´t think i said that vittorio have strong perks, i said that they´re good and i liked them, you should stop using only meta stuff (or something like that) and try to use the potential of other perks friend :)

and this is not an ´´us vs them´´, the game is in a really good state now btw

If you're kicking the same gen 8 times that might be why you are struggling at killer. I've played this game for years, mostly killer, and I can tell you killer is the strongest it has ever been generally (specific killers can fluctuate with changes ofc). If you play on PC and you have the means to record your matches I'd recommend it. You can watch back your match and notice things that you couldn't during the match. Catch any mistakes you may have made. I enjoy playing killer and I don't understand the complaints about it being too hard. If you are not enjoying your time as a killer consider playing survivor instead.

I said SINCE Wesker's release which means every patch after.

Survivor definitely can't heal as quickly as before during the CoH meta, thank goodness for that.

And you're forgetting survivors have to commit to repairing 5% of a gen to keep it from regressing once it's regressing now. That's pretty big and it means no more gen taps.