Generator System Feedback

While I'm happy gen tapping got nerfed because it was time consuming for killer and easy for survivors to counter the kick, there is still a major problem :

When a survivor leaves a generator, if a skill check event starts, it makes you automatically fail and you got a 10 % penalty.

Edit : Suggestion : when you stop repairing a generator, the skill check event appears on your screen (like overcharge).

This would be a great QoL for all survivors. They shouldn't get a huge penalty like this just because of RNG.

not really, range is already limiting aspect for this perk. Making it so gens with less than 10% progress won't explode at all is still quite a big nerf in my opinion and this 3-gen feature will be another nerf staying.

Jolt and Eruption are just gone with this update in my opinion. Same for most gen kicking perks, except for pop probably.

True, thing is same can be said about other gen kick perks, but in those instances where you can use those perks, pop has way bigger impact than any other gen kicking perk. That's why it is only I would consider valid, but I would probably avoid any gen kicking perk now and just go for blocking gens / pain res.

I am literally getting jump scared by the animation and sound FX as Killer.

Please consider lowering or altogether removing that awful sound when the spikes appear.

I play with headphones on as Killer and need the volume up to listen for Survivors, crows, repairs, ect. This is becoming a huge distraction.

For clarity: I have no objection to the system itself, just the completely unnecessary animation and sound FX.

Spreading out generators enough that 3-genning can't happen is impossible without making maps larger. It's a good thought, but it wouldn't work.

I'm liking the new changes. I haven't really encountered people 4s repairing gens to keep regression on them, or if I have it's made them easy targets.

Devs could make gen kicking perks allow regressing generators to be kicked without causing additional damage, but just activating kick perks. Even better would be that survivors lose repair progress if they stop repairing before fixing regression. <- take away the added kick regression and represent it here.

Honestly, please keep posting those matches (especially those while playing weaker Killers to really drive the point home) because eventually they'll come across it somehow anyway (maybe a repost in another thread by someone else that sees the issue or simply through sheer luck) and maybe they'll consider making the system only trigger at 3-gens (or maybe at 4 gens at the very least since someone pointed out that it's not that rare to get some nasty map generation and get some rough setups).

Personally, I would've preferred just adding another generator, or tweaking the gen spawn points to be farther apart, or having a default minimum distance radius between each. Unfortunately with the maps getting smaller, I know that may not be an option.

Just FYI, the “repair for less than 5% and let go to prevent the killer from kicking the gen again” thing doesn't work anymore. It wasn't in the patch notes but that was fixed in the 7.5.1 hotfix the other day.

If survivors try to do that now, the repair threshold to stop regression doesn’t continuously keep going up anymore. It can move down with regression, but it doesn’t go up, so they can’t make more than 5% of repairs without stopping the regression. So that is no longer an issue.

This is doing absolutely nothing to stop 3 gen. I am in a match with a Skull Merchant who is holding it down with her drones without kickg a gen amd chasing us off. Move the gens around. If a 3 gen happens like the Cage of Attonmemt at 1 gen left. She is forcing us to wait til the server kicks us out.

Trying to break a 3 gen in solo queue is still awful.

There's no guarantee you will get 4 survivors who can loop well. So survivors that go down in about 20 seconds provide very little value to their team. Likely costing you more gen progress than you can gain whilst they are looping.

Eventually gens will be in dead zones, meaning even good survivors will go down fast.

There's always a chance that nobody on the team will have gen perks or good toolboxes.

Information killers like Doctor make it almost impossible to stealth. Combine that with dead zones and players go down even faster.

Beating a 3 gen requires coordination and in solo you don't have that.

Killers can still drag a match out well over 30 minutes and still not reach the 8 regression event limit.

This solution really only addressed the 1 hour gen stalemate. Solo queue still needs help to counter this strategy. Maybe giving us something like Alert, but for generators could help. So survivors who can't coordinate can still see where the killer is patrolling the gens. Maybe show the last 3 generators' auras after a while? I don't know. But we need something.

I would just give the chance to still hit the skillcheck. Similar if you tap a Gen with Overcharge, the skillcheck remains visible so you can hit it.

You are cherry picking the situation when this can occur. This mechanic gives free 10% regression for the killer, even if they don't do anything for it. It's literally because when you stop repairing to heal a teammate/go for the unhook that the prompt will consider this a failed skill check. This is a stupid mechanic that punishes survivor for being unlucky. Yes if we address the problem we will remove the failed skill check due to the direct pressure applied by the killer. With the recent changes on the gen kicking I think it's not a big deal.

While the advices themselves are sound and effective (Survivors should try to focus on center gens early), one of them also show the flaw in the system itself;

The mindset of "everyone focusing on one particular generator" comes from somewhere. It comes from the fact that, like a few people already showed and lots of people say, it's not rare to end up in a situation where one of the gens is almost out of regression events by the end because Survivors tried to do specific gens (like they should do as it's part of Survivor gameplay, it's the reason Déjà Vu exists, to make this part easier) and they need to prioritize that gen, making the endgame harder and more stressful for the Killer even if they never intended to 3-gen. This is especially hard on slower/weaker/M1 Killers that can't zip around the map and/or end chases in 10 seconds. S-tier Killers don't really care about the system in the first place since gen-regression outside of Pop/Pain Res was never really needed outside of extreme situations against insane squads.

When a Killer seemingly refuses to kick a gen despite it having high progress, I've seen teammates purposefully leaving that gen for the end knowing it's a free W at the end. That shouldn't be a thing.

Honestly, a 3-gen situation should be difficult to deal with but not impossible (the system does actually accomplish that) but the system should only be active at the end to only deal with endless games (the real issue) instead of punishing gen-defense during the whole game and deleting many perks.

Or if we want to be more reasonable, they could just remove the regress event cap on the gold gens. They're usually central and important to defend.

That's a good suggestion - removing regression charges from gens under a certain precentage of repair progress.

8 isn't enough. I wad basically manipulated into kicking it 8 times amd they got the last gen done. I want a clear indication of when I'm close to blocking it not the spikes. It either needs to be more or reset the counter for each gen popped or something.