The Pig Buff I felt we needed.

I've not seen a "pig got nerfed" thread in a while so I guess they are on the right track eitherway hmm.

After all these years, I'm still saying Make the Rules Set No.2 (hides Jigsaw box auras for survivors until their RBT is activated) part of her base kit, Make Amanda's Letter Take current Rules Set No. 2's place in rarity (It doesn't really feel powerful enough to be an Ultra Rare), and replace it entirely with:

Heart Monitor Trigger (UR):

A modification to the Reverse Bear Traps Trigger Mechanism:

Reverse Bear Traps now activate without a timer when a survivor with one is unhooked. If a survivor with an Active Reverse Bear Trap is Sacrificed, all other active Reverse Bear Traps are Triggered.

Increases Jigsaw Box Search time by 8 seconds

Increases Jigsaw Box Skill check Difficulty by 25%

Removes Great Skill Check Success zones from Jigsaw boxes.

"You are not a good listener. I think you missed the part that if he dies, you die." - Amanda Young

This is...literally just Tunneling (Patent Pending) the add-on. I think you need to go back to the drawing board on that one.

Rule Set No. 2 basekit really only kills new players, it's a mild inconvenience for more experienced players, which is who she needs hslp with. She already stomps new players.

They don't spawn with the traps, You still have to put traps on their heads (unless you use the other useless UR Pig add-on), but they don't activate on a survivor after they've been unhooked, and after activating there's no timer ticking down. If there are more than 1 survivor with an active RBT (meaning each one would've had to have been hooked once and saved once) when one dies with an active RBT, the RBT's kill the others.

Pros:

Potential to kill more than 1 survivor if you manage to sacrifice a survivor with an active RBT.

Jisgaw boxes take longer to search, and have slightly smaller success zones that feature no Great success zones.

Encourages team mates to protect each other until the RBT's are removed since one sacrifice could snowball on the others.

Tunneling 1 survivor doesn't work until you've applied and activated RBT's on 1 or more other survivors, which encourages the killer to get as many traps active as possible before going in for the kill.

Cons:

Because RBT's aren't activated until the survivors with them are unhooked, survivors can counter by leaving another with an inactive RBT on the hook buying them time to try and remove their RBT before unhooking their allies.

RBT's no longer feature a timer, nor do they activate via gens, so there's no gen slowdown due to getting a "friend hat" from the Pig. Meaning they could just rush gens, and only go after jigsaw boxes at mid to end game.

Pig has to fully sacrifice a survivor on a hook with an Active RBT in order to get any other active RBT's to trigger and kill other survivors, Mori's won't do it.

Jigsaw box RNG is still a thing, so it's still highly possible to get the RBT off your head with the second or third Jigsaw box searched.

Basically This has the potential to create a chain reaction of RBT deaths, but in practice, it'll likely only get 1 other survivor at most by the time someone dies with an active RBT, if that. Still, it puts a lot of pressure on survivors to try and get their active RBT off before unhooking someone whose RBT hasn't been activated yet, as well as help each other stay alive until all RBT's are disarmed. I thought this would be a far better alternative for the Ultra Rare add-on slot because it changes up the playstyle for both Pig and the survivors, much like how Hag's UR add-on trade teleports for high Movement speed, or Myers UR allows him to kill without hooking by making him take much longer to Tier up. I Believe that this add-on suggestion in practice will more likely be akin to Hex: Pentimento... sure it has the potential to dominate a match if all 5 totems are re-kindled, but that's so extremely rare to actually happen that Streamers made a "Challenge" out of it.

I've been suggesting these changes since 2019, and Despite the cons which I feel make the potential power of this add-on more balanced, and the fact that it would follow the Saw franchise lore surrounding Amanda (Pig) better, I got slammed with a slew of comments from survivors saying they would DC in droves against Pig if the idea were implemented, and the only thing anyone agreed on was that "Rules set No.2" should be base kit. I believe that the reason they shot it down so harshly is simply because they didn't understand that I had balance in mind when coming up with it, which is why I took the liberty of spelling it out this time around.

Case and point! Pulsar doesn't understand that you need to Apply multiple RBT's, they need to be activated by teammate's unhooking, and THEN you have to actually manage to sacrifice one of the teammates WITH an Active RBT in order to get the chain reaction of kills. In other words, There's no point in tunneling anyone if you don't have active RBT's on any of the other survivors, and even then, there's no timer on them, so the only time based condition is: How many survivors can remove their RBT's vs. How quickly the killer can get multiple RBT's placed, Activated, and Sacrifice one of them to trigger the chain reaction.

This isn't Billy, Bubba, Ghost-Face, Blight, etc, Killers with high mobility and one shot-downs... this is Pig we're talking about. No insta-down capability, a special attack that's highly telegraphed, a game slowdown mechanic and otherwise your standard m1 killer. I figured a Playstyle altering add-on with high setup and the potential for high reward would be a great change of pace for Pig.

Rules set no.2 also doesn't do anything significant enough to kill new players, especially with the upcoming 3 min timer change. There's no reason it shouldn't be base kit at this point.

I appreciate you backing me, especially when everyone else seems to believe that I only want to make the pig OP as hell, and must've ate many lead based paint chips as a child.

That's honestly how it feels most of the time when I make perks or suggestions. Try as I might and despite their claims, I do have balance in mind, and TBH, the one I suggested here, if it were truly balanced, would activate traps the moment they were put on survivors. As it is, It has 5 requirements for the killer in order to work:

1. the killer downs, sets an RBT, and hooks the survivor.

2. The survivor is rescued.

3. More than 1 other survivor has been downed, trapped, hooked and rescued to activate their trap(s) too,

4. a survivor with an active trap is sacrificed to get a kill chain reaction

5. none of the other survivors with active traps have disarmed them by the time the survivors with an active trap is sacrificed.

If anything, this is honestly a ######### useless add-on, now that I think about it! At least all Myers has to do is spend a combined 3 mins of Stalking to kill everyone without hooking them! FFS, I dunno why everyone complains about My idea(s) when what the game already has in it is far worse. If anything, My idea is too nice/coddling to survivors by comparison to what the devs have already created.

@Pulsar was actually right! I need to go back to the drawing board and make this add-on more streamlined/brutal so that it's an actual threat, and not a majorly convoluted add-on with so many excess requirements that are nigh impossible to achieve in order for it to work! If Myers can provide so much more threat with much less requirements, and still achieve changing their whole playstyle, than this add-on needs to do the same!

Thanks @Mentally_Mechanical , You've motivated me to see where I've been wrong in my suggestion, and I promise Heart Monitor Trigger 3.0 will be much better!