Badham Preschool (Springwood)

This is the most survivor-sided set of maps in the game imo.

There are multiple strong buildings for survivors which don't encourage much skill expression for either side and it's often quite easy to chain a filler pallet into a strong building, or vice versa to save a stronger building pallet for later. (There's an example of this below.) The presence of several buildings as well as plenty of filler objects/bushes/etc. throughout the map also makes it very easy for survivors to hide on these maps (easier than most maps). Generators can be difficult for the killer to patrol since 3 of them are on different elevation from the ground (either above or below). This map can also be difficult for killers who use lockers as part of their power, since lockers only appear in buildings (and in the small hut near one of the buildings).

The main building is an absolute nightmare when dealing with Boil Over and/or sabotage, especially if the basement appears in the shack. It can be very easy to make the killer unable to hook anyone who runs down to the lower floor. On the other hand, a survivor getting hooked in the basement in main building can put survivors in a very difficult position since it's basically a double-basement in a way.

There are also sometimes pallet spawns very close together, such as this example from Badham II where there are 4 filler pallets all surrounding and in close proximity to the killer shack, not including the actual shack pallet (the 4th one is on the opposite side of the shack just outside of Zanshin range):

I also feel that having 5 different versions of this map when the changes mostly amount to just slightly changing the map's shape and moving the same buildings and pallets around is just unnecessary and makes it very difficult for new players (both survivor and killer) to learn the map.

I like this map as survivor. It could be more look like a school. I'ts helpful that it has high buildings.

As killer I don't understand the breakable walls (in other maps too). Mostly you need to break the one at the stairs for the hook. If I could instantly break them while stealthed to surprise survivor, that would be funny.

Beside that there are strong loops and it takes time to patrol the gens.

Not using many hexes but I think the hex spots are too easy to find.

2nd best Survivor sided map Main building has 2 god pallets a god fence vault outside with 3 strong pallets surrounding main building no mind games are able to counter and just wastes alot of time for the killer

Everything in this map heavily favours survivors, it needs a rework with the purpose of balance

also please just add a hook that always spawns in the basement of the main building.

While I think everything was said about this map, it bears repeating;

Main building, against weaker/M1 Killers, is one of the closest things to an infinite we still have. Add that with the vault in front of main and at least two pallets around it and it's the go-to spots to run Killers for ages, not to mention the fences which Survivors can run much better than those Killers.

If basement doesn't spawn in main building, Survivors can almost always guarantee to wiggle from the Killer's grasp if they fall in the underground part of main unless the Killer brought Iron Grasp and/or Agitation. A Survivor with Boil Over can fully guarantee to be unhookable unless those perks were brought.

I believe that a single hook in the underground part of main (if basement doesn't spawn there) and a slight weakening of main building and it's surroundings in general would be a good first step.

Badham is a strong contender for the worst map in the game. It's huge, almost every gen is tucked away behind some kind of obnoxious line-of-sight blocker that requires you to get within audio range just to tell if people are working on it or not, there are 4 buildings that make for very strong, reusable tiles, the area outside of those buildings is a barren wasteland once the ambulance pallets are broken...

If you down someone in the boiler room and basement isn't there, then you need to make main building even stronger by breaking one of the walls just to be able to reach a hook. And god forbid a sabo squad with Exponential or Buckle Up + For the People or whatever puts up a Pied Piper and a Bloodied Blueprint.

Also, there are hypothetically five variants of the map and I genuinely could not tell you the differences between any of them, and I have 2,000 hours in the game plus thousands more hours watching other people play it, wiki-diving, talking/writing about it, dissecting its design, etc.

I don't even like playing this map as survivor. Every chase is just a flowchart based on which gen I was working on when the killer found me. It's boring. There are no interesting decisions to make because all of the gameplay centers around a series of buildings that only really have one way to play them and very little mindgame potential.

Every feature on the map is a strong, safe building.

Shack is shack, how has shack not been changed in all this time? At the very least make the back wall solid and not have big gaps for the survivor to see you through.

The house of pain is still one of the safest places in the game for survivor, with a god pallet directly into a window in most setups.

The 2 story house isn't as good, but still has lots of open windows to vault making it easy for survivors to gain ground while moving between buildings.

The main building is a goddamn hell-loop. The strong window outside, the TWO god pallets inside, and the long narrow corridors that have no potential for mindgames are all crap features.

This map shows why breakable pallet walls were abandoned. They're either must-break walls like the 2 story house, wasting the killer's time, or they're unbreakable, like the main building, unless you want to make broken loops even more broken.

It is genuinely hard to not instantly give up as killer when you spawn on these maps.

Map completely favors survivor as the map tends to be pretty big and you have A TON of safe loops to work with as survivor

To many strong building for one map. The main building bottom floor can easilly have unhookable spots if the basement doesn't spawn there and the survivor has boil over etc. to many los breakers. Honestly this map has a bit of everything that helps survivors.

Definitely a survivor sided map. The big things are: if basement is at shack then mid basement is super strong, the inter building pallets are all super strong/without counterplay, the map is really large, there’s 5 variations of the map that only slightly change the building layouts which do nothing but make it harder for newer players. Not the worst but map balance wise but nowhere neat the top.

Amazing survivor map but awful killer map with 4 god houses, a shack, and at least 5 chainable loops on shack side of the map, it is also one of the easiest maps in the game to be stealthy on so that's god for the few stealthy killers but all survivors not running bright cosmetics.

First of all, why do they all have 3 main buildings, and all 3 wildly strong?

Main is hold W heaven and a huge time waster, plus if basement doesn't spawn there it can make survivors unhookable, since you often have to choose between breaking a wall and create an infinite but take the hook, or not open the infinite but leave the survivor slugged.

Does also main need to be reinforced by TWO different car loops and a pallet on the back? (as bad as that pallet is).

Two story can be made bearable by breaking the two walls, but also depends on which windows spawn. Sometimes breaking those walls (why two? ain't I already wasting enough time between the other two main buildings?) makes the downstairs unplayable for survivors, sometimes changes very little.

House of pain: it's in the name no? Best part is when window on the back and window into basement spawn next to each other, making this a proper infinite - not that other setups are that much weaker. I'd rather chase main than house of pain most of the time.

Also, all of these gifts of gods are interconnected by pallets that, if the killer is lucky, are not 100% safe and not spaced at an approximate distance of 2 metres from each other, but the opposite is more common.

Since the map is clearly still too weak we also have shack, that can - you guessed it - be interconnected to pallets with perfect visibility.

But what can be worse than this map? Five of it, of course.

Only positive point: they are all on the smaller size and the color palette is a joy for the eyes.

Very strong map for survivors with connected tiles, but a lot of the tiles just become dead zones once pallets are gone think a lot of maps just need ro have more built in vaults over a pallet that turns into a dead zone when gone. Over all though survivor sided against most killers

Get a hook in the main building downstairs boiler room. And the map is such a pain for killers anyways so fix that

Survivor sided. Give us Robert Englund Freddy. Not sure who that is we have in the game currently that is named "freddy", but it doesn't look like him to me..

Scary. Eerie. It nails the feeling of “something not quite right in suburbia”. You can tell a great evil has occurred just by the hue of the sky. The preschool looks sad and the basement of it radiates evil. Massive success.

All five variants of Badham Preschool feel very survivor sided but one is more avarage, three and five a little bit better for killers, and two and four are extremly survivor sided.

• All of these maps are very big which hurts every killer without great mobility because it takes so much time to reach a generator or the next action. two and four have the issue that the maps are bigger which takes killers even more time to reach something. In general, for killers most of the time you are too far from the action.
• The mainbuilding (Preschool) is very big and it feels so boring to chase a survivor there because you need so much time to catch up. In addition, if you don't have the killer-basement there and the survivor goes down in the basemant, you are forced to break one breakable wall which makes the mainbuilding more painful to chase around because you give the survivors more opputunities to escape out of the building/to loop you around it, especially if you have to open the door with the car-loop next to it. Lastly, the mainbuilding has also three very safe paletts for survivors which is very huge.
• The double storehouse is a strong loop with three reliable strong windows that can extend a chase pretty good. Some killers are forced to break both walls to make this spot weaker but this gives the survivor enough time to run away and catching up on this map is very difficult for many killers. It is basically a lose lose situation for the killer.
• The house of pain has also great windows that survivors can use very well to waste killers time - dependent on the rng the windows can be either good or great. The pallet down there is also very safe against many killers.
• The shack on it's own is a typical loop place but on these maps, the shack has always either good filler paletts or strong loops next to it which is brutal of many killers when they have to deal with a shack that is connected into strong loops or that a survivor can easily reach the shack by using the filler paletts/loops around the shack.
• Overall, the map has always four building which hurts many killers because these cannot use their power well in these buildings.
• The map can have 17 paletts which is brutal because survivors can easier waste and predrop paletts because there are so many of them.
• It is also very hard for killers to check and defend generators because they are spread out very far, difficult to reach, and in strong spots - one in the basement of the school, one in the basement of the house of pain, one in the double storehouse, and one in or near the check. The generators on the street often spwan next to good loops or the strong building. This also means survivors can find generators very easily since their spawns are reliable.

tl;tr: The maps are too big, the building are too strong, the generators are difficult to reach and defend, 17 paletts is too much, and loops are often connected very well.

Little sidenote:

To be honest, we don't need five different variants of the same map. It is the same with the McMillan variants, they are just confusing and unnecessary. It would be great if we had one Badham map, this is more than enough. You, the developers, add at least four maps per year and the more maps we have the harder to learn will be this game, especially for newer player. The best way, in my opinion, would be to make the variant one more balanced for both side and the variants two to five can go into the tash. This would safe so much time and it would be less confusing for players to learn five different versions of the same map.

Easily a Survivor sided map, the Breakable Walls placement do not favor the killer one bit in in the main building or any of the houses, that is literally copycat from old Haddonfield before the rework. It is possible, to create a infinite window with that fence window and nearby 3 God pallets. The gens are spreading out, so it is easily difficult for any killer to do a 3 gen or any gen defense without a build and a plan for it. This map not only need to be shrunk down, but also they need Rework both buildings completed from scratch. The Breakable Walls is absolutely a joke, as they tend to favor the killer more if left unbroken; then the intended purpose of making loops unsafe original. Those Breakable Walls left intact, especially if the basement spawns in the school basement makes camping the school and deny any safe unhooked much more risky and favor the killer in thar aspect. Everything else about the map is survivors sided.

Absolutely terrible map for killer. Instant restart of game if I see a map offering for it.

its just awful to see 4 pallets nearby shack most of them good, and the main building needs a change, the window loop vs some kllers is a masive time waste, also its a big map so it takes years to patrol gens with some 4.4ms killers

I feel like there are too many variants for what differences there are. Also, I think there should be a hook downstairs in main if basement doesn't spawn there; I've had survivors make Springwood offerings and offerings to spawn hatch in shack, then get downed in basement where they couldn't be hooked.