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I wish they would implement solo mode

Tsukihi
Tsukihi Member Posts: 56
edited March 2024 in Feedback and Suggestions

It doesn't matter if it's ranked or casual, so I'd like to see a complete solo mode without VCPT.

Post edited by Rizzo on

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  • OnryosTapeRentals
    OnryosTapeRentals Member Posts: 1,228

    This is probably me missing something obvious, but what is VCPT?

  • Yharwick
    Yharwick Member Posts: 521

    Powerwash simulator but it's doing gens.

    But you can kinda already do that with distortion tbh.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 6,162

    Without Voice Chat maybe? I'm not sure either.

    But I don't see how that could be enforced.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    It could be enforced when its guaranteed 4 randoms, with no pre game chat and player profiles hidden, so there's no way to know with whom you are playing, and you are not able to share some discord or ts url beforehand.

  • イエローミント
    イエローミント Member Posts: 200

    VCPT refers to 'Survive With Friends (SWF) play using voice chat,' specifically in the Japanese-speaking community. In this case, it refers to games where all players are entirely in solo queue.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 6,162

    Most of the DBD playerbase is on one of the consoles, not on Steam or Epic or Windows. So there already is no pre-game chat box being used there at all, nor are they on Discord. Xbox and the PlayStations all come with built-in party voice chat that is very easy to use and connect with, and is entirely independent of that game is being played. That is what I mean by saying it's unenforceable.

    As far as making all lobbies only random solo players, we need to keep in mind around half of all survivors are in at least a two-man group already. Forcing all randoms would likely kill DBD, as others here have said. I agree about hiding profiles that should happen.

  • Ilikechips
    Ilikechips Member Posts: 166

    Good luck getting anything for survivor, let alone solo.

    Look at the upcoming patch notes. Only killer buffs. Not a single thing for survivors. Not even an awful perk being buffed.

    Solo mode is never going to happen.

  • BooomTetris
    BooomTetris Member Posts: 58

    If it's an optional game mode, you can still play with your friends. But nearly no Killer would queue up in the "swf mode"

  • Hexling
    Hexling Member Posts: 657

    and no players that have one or two friends would ever que up for a mode not to play with friends sooooo where are we going with this.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596
    edited March 2024

    No I don't want that. You are wrong. Neither did I wrote that I'd want that. Classical strawman argument, nicely done. I'm not even a killer main. Having Nemi as a profile pic does not make me a Nemi main.

    All I was saying is how to HYPOTHETICALLY enforce a Solo mode OP was talking about. I did not say ANYTHING about whether that would a good or dumb idea.

    So pls, first read what ppl are talking about, try to comprehend what they are saying, and then comment something senseful. Thank you.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    Didn't think of consoles, you are right. So such a hypothetical solo mode would also have to be limited to pc versions only.

    I do not want to force anyone to play solo. I was just referring to OPs proposal of a solo mode with (likely) no voice chat, and your reply that it wouldn't be enforcable. I still think it could be enforced, although only with the heavy restriction that it's only possible for pc versions (as you pointed out) and the adjustments I wrote initially.

    Would it be a good thing? Most likely not.

    Would it be worth the effort? Hell no.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    Guess what? Killer ALSO did not get perk buffs!

    But when we want to compare perks, why not look at the new perks? Sables perks are actually fine, after the PTB changes. Unknowns perks are meh.

    Yes killers got buffs ... mostly got add-ons that felt mandatory to use incorporating into base kit. And most of them are B to D tier killers. So they actually need some buffs. Buffs to Hag and Huntress may be a bit unnecessary, that's right.

    You know what else killers get in the next patch? A HEAVY mangled nerf! But sure, survivors don't get anything with the next patch.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 6,162

    I agree with your assessment. No way it'd be worth the resources. I also doubt there would be enough support from the players to pursue the idea either. I tend to think of the SWF discussions as largely moot: it's far past time to even consider major changes or clamping down-type rules for them. That time was in when it was introduced like 7 years ago.

  • xltechno
    xltechno Member Posts: 1,026

    It's important not to be an SWF in a pure competition of ability, so I understand your desire for that. However, BHVR will never do that because it would be a huge loss in terms of profits.

    More than that, in Japan there is a strong demand for the ability to avoid matches with anonymous players. It's clearly a breeding ground for cheaters, and everyone explicitly avoids it, so the current situation just adds an extra step.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596

    The only "benefit" for survivors such a solo mode could include is some restrictions to the killers loadout, so no 4 gen slowdown or something like that. Like a "casual queue". But I'd expect casual swf would want to play such a "casual queue" as well ... like you said, possible not worth the ressources.

  • Tsukihi
    Tsukihi Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2024

    In Asian servers, where there are many efficiency-oriented survivors, the killer's win rate will drop significantly when facing a party.

    We understand that the environment is different from North America, so it will be difficult to make adjustments.

  • Tsukihi
    Tsukihi Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2024

    In the first place, on Asian servers, cheaters who abuse anonymous mode often participate in rituals with SWF. This is especially noticeable to players in China, so there is no way to escape the current environment full of cheaters unless they implement a mode where they cannot form a party or set up a Japan-only server.

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  • Hexling
    Hexling Member Posts: 657
    edited March 2024

    I read it re read it again and then re read it one more time... Here let me comment something meaningful HYPOTHETICALLY its still a dumb idea. I didn't even look at your profile pic lol. Also I never said you are a killer main I said its what a I never play survivor killer would say you aren't that special not everything is about you. Sorry you got so easily triggered. Think about what I wrote and then come back and write something senseful. Thanks.

  • kit_mason
    kit_mason Member Posts: 352

    Why would anyone queue to maybe go against SWF ever again? Meaning SWFs can't play, so they stop playing, causing a huge hit to the active playerbase.

    It's a cute idea to make killer matches easier, but it's bad for general game health.

  • CaulDrohn
    CaulDrohn Member Posts: 1,596
    edited March 2024

    If you read it so often, how can you write that I would WANT to have such a mode, when I wrote nothing about that?

    Yes it's dumb. I did not deny that. Neither did I confirm that. I just explored how something like that could be enforced. Nothing more, nothing less. You still straw manned me there.

    True you did not say I would be a killer main, but you pretty much implied it by your last remark. Still my bad for being imprecise here.

    Yes it triggers me a bit if someone totally unrelated to the discussion comes around and immediately trash talks me, without fully understanding what I wrote about.

    Your uno reverse "trick" you can skip, it does not add anything useful to the discussion.