Solo queue players being able to see the perks of their teammates should be a top priority.

Not sure about top priority but it can't be that hard to implement this feature, so I think they could squeeze it into a future patch along with some other things. It's pretty weird that it's not in the game already.

Putting the perks in the lobby has been asked for so many times over the years I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. At first it would lead to a bad dodging problem, which imo would dissipate over time. Good luck doing No Mither stuff and several achievements/trophies though.

If not in the lobby, i would like to see this info within the trial, maybe where the players & offerings are. No dodging problem there, and some synergy could be possible then.

Your teammates could then check to see if anyone has things like Deliverance or Unbreakable or even Head On and act more intelligently.

At least show them on the loading screen and make them available in game. I fully understand many would find it cluttered to have the little perk diamonds of other survivors on their screen, so make that a toggle while keeping them always available for a quick check in the pause menu.

It should be in the menu which opens when you press the Esc-Button (or whatever is used on Console). The menu which shows the Offerings and names and Ping of the Survivors. Just next to them the Perks would be great.

This would not cause more lobbydodging (which indeed should not happen), but would give helpful information. Sure, you would not be able to adjust your build to the build of other people, but I dont think many would do that if you could see the Perks in the Lobby. Most would probably dodge if they see that this David is just doing his Adept or if that Claudette indeed has Self Care.

But having that in the actual Trial makes sense and has not really any disadvantage.

Those killers would be upset but I really don't think bhvr cares even a little bit about their opinions on this. They are more concerned on an opinion they made at the start of the game regarding survivors being survivors. They'd rather never go back on their word.

Also you know who else thinks my happiness isn't their responsibility? Every random survivor, as half of them aren't playing to win :).

David's adept would never get done ever again.

I think BHVR does care. It's all they've shown for a long while now. Killer this, killer that. If they get their hands held anymore, they won't even have to play the game to win anymore.

Also you know who else thinks my happiness isn't their responsibility? Every random survivor, as half of them aren't playing to win :).

What a nihilistic view. I primarily solo'Q and I make sure any killer who isn't a shithead has a lot of fun in that match. New killers are easy to spot, and they mostly don't get ######### on if Im in the game. I straight up shame survivors who bully a clearly new killer.

Not a good idea to lob an entire population into a ridiculous assumption. You know as well as I there are good and bad apples in any bunch. Survivors, killers, both sides have sh*theads and good peoples. Alas it seems the bad apples are spoiling the entire orchard of dbd.

Why would killers react to this feature at all? Unlike ingame voicechat or chatwheel this changes nothing in-trial.

"Hey im running DH DS BT SC"

Already possible in voicechat and lobby chat. Yes, icons and tooltips would be simpler but it's already possible to inform the other survivors.

The only way this could agitate certain killers is if survivor perks were vvisible to the killer. But thats off topic.

That one is the reason. Second reason is I will not remember teammates' perks when the game starting.

There is a better way, need alot more working time from the Devs, which is not possible. Something like...

• Show perk icon (Reassurance) on a teammate's aura hook if the perk is activating on them.
• Show perk icon (Head on) on a locker, with yellow aura in a short distance (12-16m).
• Show perk icon (Plot twist) on a survivor with they slug themselves with the perk.

I have only those in mind. But teammates' perk info should work like that.

I'm all for this but I do see one major problem. Sweats will dodge any lobby where their teammates aren't running a full meta build. So you will either get the sweatiest survivor team ever or a team of meme survivors and total noobs. There will be no in between. It would make the game better for survivors who care about winning I guess. I know for a fact I would win more matches if I didn't have teammates running self care and distortion. I think it's fine because survivors deserve agency over who they play with. I don't fault anyone who doesn't want to play with people who run meme perks. I'll be 100% honest and say that I would absolutely dodge meme survivors.

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/191306/leveling-the-playing-field-for-solo-survivors#latest . Solo survivors are at a disadvantage. More info like all survivors perks add-ons and offerings being shown to each other before the match is only helpful and can allow all survivors to work better as a team. I've wasted so many map offerings because I had no idea someone else was using a different one.

Maybe allow an option to hide or show your info, like player lvl

I disliked survivors giving up when I was a killer main because I wanted a real game and now far more than before I hate survivors giving up when 8/10 times it's winnable and half the time it's our favor. 1200 hours and on both sides I've had to watch people just throw the game and the game encourages it. It's not a few bad apples genuinely. Otz did a video covering a few hundred of his solo queue games and 15% of his teamates just gave up. He as a streamer with better mmr should have much better matchmaking overall than most people and still yielded this result.

I want to play the game, I want my allies to play the game and I want the killer to play the game(ideally in a way where they don't kick gens over a hit). The bot like killer players can be easily beaten but it doesn't matter when survivors don't even try to stomp them.

Let me say this again. In the span of two weeks I played about 20 survivors games in mostly a 2 man group but a few 3 mans. In 12 of those games someone gave up(ONLY 1 DC!!!!). I have literally never had less than a 50% WR on survivor, I am over the threshold. In 10 of those games it was favored towards us the survivors, in 2 it was even. When tunneling did happen it was to either me or one of my friends, but the game was heavily favored towards us and tunneling itself was rare. Not a single survivor who gave up was being tunneled, camped or slugged prior to their suicide.

I have played league for over a decade. People will say ff15 at 3 min in or even earlier and you know what they do??? They continue playing the game normally as if to win because they can't afford to leave because of how strict punishments are. DBD players don't get it, they think they should be allowed to ruin the game for everyone else because they ****** their first chase just like in league you mess up your lane state early. Except league is 10 times more punishing in on average far longer than a dbd game.

The game encourages survivors to throw with outside challenges, survivors will play for fun which is throwing, survivors will give up if they mess up. There are so many ways a single survivor can and will destroy a game for all 4 other players. But it's fine right?

Killers having fun isn't my concern, it's all on them for the most part. But survivors will ruin it for everyone whether it's obvious or not.

I've watched many different youtubers on both sides watched 1k+ of lilith omen and played 1.2K+ hours myself, but it's the same for everyone. It's not just me.

PS: It's not giving up at 4 gens left and 6 hooks in that I am referring to. It's only about games thrown out of the pure greed of an individual player who doesn't get punished. I'll throw killers under the bus too idc, players and mmr are the root cause of this games strive. The average killer is only strong because of how disgusting the highest tier of meta is for killler right now and guess what? I don't think bhvr has an inkling of an idea how strong it is. GE+PR+POP+Literally whatever, they were just looking at individual perks and couldn't foresee the future. BHVR doesn't hand hold anything they always just lack awareness. Just like god Validation DH+bugged IW+ 100% CoH + UB or whatever else in UB's place. They just can't add it up and that survivor meta was far stronger than this killer meta no contest.

I'm don't think the entire survivor player base acts this way but you underestimate it to a very high degree. No other game have I played with this many bad apples, not even close.

The people who would lobby dodge perks they don't like would just treat hidden perks as an "always dodge". That wouldn't fix that problem.

Last second switching, but this time survivor-vs-survivor edition, I’m loving it 😁

I feel like the benefits of being able to see your teammates' perks outweigh the occasional dodges that might happen.

if this gets implemented killers should see them too

No? why should they?

I can agree, but also disagree but agree on the priority.

Yes, SoloQ needs buffs to be just as good as SWF with the ability to communicate with 3rd party communicate. But... I don't want them to be so good that most killers will think they are dealing with competitive level SWF players/bully squads that they might tend to lobby dodge or even tunnel or play toxic all the time. I agree it can be a priority but not the number one priority.

If they are going to buff SoloQ with so much reliable communication, heck through in free voice communications. They need to take the extra step in helping any average killers to be compensate and still have a power level to handle 1v4, with faster mobility, lethality, or even decent map pressure in general.

As far as I can see it, trying to buff SoloQ to be as good as SWF seem like a pipe dream that is harder to execute then easier to say it.

It would cause more issues than solve I'm afraid. The thing is people should be able to bring perks without being bullied or hounded for it. If someone is going for adept it would take them ages just to find a lobby. I honestly don't think it would be good, I'd rather have a ping system where I could say "I'm on a gen" "I'm going for save" "I'm in chase" (I know we have the icons already but it could help with more precise instructions).

Most of the playerbase is on the consoles, who cannot use the lobby chat.

Something that most of the players don't even see? And they've said many times they have no plans to add it to the consoles either. We need something else.