The Adrenaline nerf is yet another slap in the face to the SoloQ and I am exhausted of this

It is sad, that soloq is the unwanted victim in all nerfs to survivor. Killer has a ton of different characters, so nerfing one isnt that bad to the overall role. Survivor is one character with different skins. The only difference is how many people join a lobby together.

First you bring up high mobility killers, then you claim that BBQ stops you from hiding. So what now? Is the killer near you or are they not? I genuinely cannot follow your thought process. You list things that imply the killer will run across the map and then you say, they're still near you. Are we talking about Schroedinger's killer here? Because usually a killer will not be both on the other side of the map and near you all at once.

Old UW doesn't exist anymore. You cannot use old UW to counter new Adrenaline. That's why it's pointless even bringing up.

It is very interesting to me that this perk is treated as if it were Tier 1 on the North American servers (and the EU?). On Asian servers, it is treated like NOED, "a toy that is only triggered after the match is almost over, and is only useful in rare cases", and is rarely useful in solo situations, even if the adrenaline carrier can effectively last chase or body block in VCPT.The "toy" is not a "toy" at all.

Reread everything I wrote in this thread. I'm not going to re-explain everything I already concisely said.

I mentioned high mobility because those are the killers that snowball the easiest. If you 99 a gen to get adrenaline to work, the killer walks over and pops the gen, and now you cannot run to the other side of the map to get that 25 seconds back because they are high mobility, and the match went from survivors winning to the killer getting a 4k. High mobility is used in chase in addition to map movement.

It clearly saw too much play compared to other perks.
Here are the stats from February, nearly 25% of all builds had Adrenaline. Its too much.

Pop and pain res are also pushing 25%. Do you also consider those "too much?"

I agree for both cases as well. I don't like essentially being forced to run a perk as a band-aid to poor design, for both killer and survivor.

I really would like to see Windows adjusted as well, since it's sitting at 33%, but perhaps the game can be tuned elsewhere to compensate.

It's a soloq buff because people stop wasting a slot and makes more gens done

Just curious friend, because you're always very fair and strong in your argumentation, just want to ask why this one upsets you so much?

Adrenaline's main strength was always the ability to gain a health state while you occupy the killer for tne final gen. You are afforded the ability to play aggressive at end game because you can see the health state coming, and if there are 2 of you, an m1 killer is basically boned.

Yes sprint away at 150% is reduced by 2 seconds... but thats still a pocket Sprint Burst, which is hardly a trash effect. The extra 2 seconds was not why you took it... you take it for the health state and the quick distance to another tile, which Sprint Burst easily provides.

The only thing that's changed is you don't get the effect if you're hanging on hook... which was the unfair part of Adrenaline. The killer caught you, and any m1 killer fighting for kills at end game literally cannot possibly stop you after you come off hook if the team has any real idea what they're doing.

Not having a dig, I'm just genuinely curious what scenario it was you lost off Adrenaline that has specifically made it a no go perk for you?

I appreciate your candid post! And you've pretty much narrowed it down. :)

There are far too many scenario's that already existed that stopped Adrenaline from working at all. Terminus, certain killer powers, being in deep wounds, so in my opinion, the perk already had a chance of being a dead perk all game.

I don't mind the 3 second change. I don't mind the Freddy change, and if someone does, please reassess lol.

Getting the effect off hook was the thing that made me think "Ok, could be a dead perk, but its favorable that it won't."

I do understand that for any killer, M1, or not, this is a pretty abhorrent situation, and doesn't feel fair. so that's why I'm not parading and making this bigger than it is.

If I could tweak things a bit, I'd say let either the heal happen when unhooked, or let the speed happen. But gutting the perk entirely because RNG decided now was the time to get hooked makes it less than efficient than most other perks.

It will be great with coordinated SWFs, but I mostly soloQ. Maybe thats where my perspective comes from… I dont have that SWF coordination. Gens will just.. pop when/if they pop lol.

It's not an unhealthy change, just a bitter one to swallow. Hope that helps! :)

I'm glad I asked, you've made me have to stop and think. 🤔
Truthfully I've always been kinda torn on this perk on two points:

• It's an end game perk that can potentially not do anythng, so has to be strong (unlike NOED, the survivor isn't guaranteed to be there at end game).
• All of these effects together, especially when multiple people are running it, are extremely obnoxious… it does kinda promote tunneling players out to make sure you can't be hit by it at a crucial moment.

I am fundamentally against the hook heal, because you have been caught, and it's better for the killer to NOT hook you and slap you down as you stand up, instead of hooking you.
That said, I do also think that deep wound blocking Adrenaline is a little harsh. Broken is meant to be the counter, having 2 effects nullify it is a little unfair.

I do think the perk is still strong, but with the speed being dropped as well, I would feel the floor is open to debate on healing through deep wound. That doesn't seem an unreasonable compromise to me. Even FTP+Buckle isn't a problem with that change because of the broken effect.