Perk Update Feedback

Ultimate Weapon:

To be fair, old Ultimate Weapon was not healty for the metagame because it was too much free info for just opening a locker - kinda stupid -, so to rework this perk was good. It was also so stupid that survivors ran Calm Spirit due to this - an awful perk. However, the new-new Ultimate Weapon will be a really niche perk because not many killer can get value from it and/or there are better perks. It would be better if the Perk would work like in the PTB with the aurareading even though it would be stronger on high mobility killer but let's be honest; every information perk (No Where To Hide, Tinkerer, Darkness Reveal) will be somewhat stronger on high mobility killer because they have the mobility to get more value from it. In addition, if Ultimate Weapon becomes useless, many killer will rather replace the perkslot with another slowdown/regression perk and not with a new infoperk and I guess the result will be not good. The PTB-UW has also a fair trade off 15seconds active and 60seconds cooldown. I really hope you, the developers, will think about it or do another (better) change to Ultimate Weapon to make it healthy but still usefull.

DS:

The 5seconds stun is fine for the moment. However, from a statement from one of the developers (an answer in a topic in this forum) I know they will add more anti-tunnel-things and they should do this because the hole anti-tunnel-solution should not be one perk that is behind a paywall. In addition, I'm afraid that the new DS will only help for a short term of time and in the long term it will only hurt the metagame (for example: weaker killers suffer more from the 5second stun than the stronger ones due to their power and/or mobility which could result in seeing only the stronger ones more; slugging could also become more common). I also see the issue @Coffeecrashing mentioned in their post that some players will use DS aggressivly and not as an anti-tunnel perk to find a safe place (some survivors do this already with OTR and it feels from the killer POV just awful) but time will tell how this goes.

Adrenaline:

Fair and fine now. It is still a strong perk and many players will use it but against killers without high moblity it feels a lot fairer due to the shorter speedboost. In addition, the full health unhook felt so unfair and I am happy it is gone. No longer wake up against Freedy is - of cause - a good thing. Overall, a good and fair nerf to make this perk balanced.

Hi,

I'm new to the forum and relatively new to DBD in general (I decided to play after maxing everything on TCM).

A lot of the changes I can't make comment on as I'm only 3 months into the game BUT the one that I feel strongly about is Ultimate Weapon. This perk was a big factor in deciding to buy the Alien and a perk I think is fun to use, very easily countered and can make a game interesting when all that is happening is victims looping all the time. I'm still a Trapper noob but using it informs where I place traps and helps me decide wether I hunt into the darkness or trap up an area. The changes make it a useless perk now I think, I can't say I'll use it again and if I'm totally honest, I feel a bit ripped off. The Alien is fun to use but the UW perk really gets the match going and balances it out (for me anyway) and without it I would rather have my money back and buy a different character.

Guess I'm going back to being teabagged at the exit all the time. Really unfair decision.

I'm using Google Translate, so please excuse me if there are any mistakes.

Ultimate Weapon has the best effect in ver7.7.0.

Most players dislike survivors with the meta perk Calm Spirit.
Because it's just hidden and doesn't move.
In ver7.7.0, Calm Spirit decreases which is very healthy.
Until now, people who liked Doctor and Infectious Fright must have felt very stressed.

There is no problem in creating an effect based on TerrorRadius.
In this game, the smaller the TerrorRadius, the stronger it is, so you need a perk to rescue killers with a large TerrorRadius.
That's why Unforeseen is so popular right now.

Adren isn't nerfed enough. 4 Adrens + 4 Resi (now +4 DS and +4 DH) in a good SWF is the most braindead gameplay in the game after 4 aura perks on Nurse on Midwich. It's absolutely easy win against every non S-tier killer, especially those one who don't tunnel.
To be fair, Adren is not a problem, problem is SWF can bring same strongest perks, what make already strongest players even stronger. Unless it won't be changed, Adren shouldn't heal you from injured state. Give it some small value during the match maybe, but this perk unleashes SWF hands too much, allowing too much. There is a reason why it's second most popular perk, and it still will be. Love how people crying about S tier perk nerfed to S tier perk because it will be less useful once in 30 matches.

UW could be a not completely bad perk with lower cooldown.

Nothing done with weaponizing DS, but i know we will back to this question again soon, looking on everyone's games after update.

Revert Adrenaline, look at my thread

i am saying that this pre-nerfed aura version is still usable. The upcoming version where it does not follow killer radius and only stays at locker within 32 meters for 15 seconds is dead perk.

The only thing i wish they changed about this version is make a screaming perk so that it does properly counter distortion instead of get countered by distortion.

I like that Ultimate Weapon 3.0 addresses the issue it had of providing too much value on killers with mobility, but the upcoming version's gonna be a little lacking. Please consider lowering its cooldown back to 30, or no more than 40 seconds at the highest.

Adrenaline changes are…fine, I guess. Removal of waking up from Freddy's dream world is definitely a W, lower speed duration is fine, but the no more healing off hook I think was rather unnecessary. No reason survivors should be denied their perk when they survived long enough to make it to the end game. I would reinstate that part of the perk personally.

DS is……very mixed….. On one hand, it's really nice that it's a more effective counter to tunneling as the 3 second stun was rather lacking, but I'm sorry, I think this new version is too much. Speaking from the times I've used it as survivor, I just feel so safe and practically invincible while this perk is active, so much that it makes me want to run into the killer's face to force its activation, since the 5 second stun alone is very strong no matter what you do afterwards. Buys me time to pick up slugs, blind the killer with CoL, or even lose them entirely. Pretty disappointing that the devs had over 5 months to come up with something to avoid aggressive, body blocking plays with it, and they failed to address this issue. I know this is probably a controversial take, but I think its stun should go down to 4 seconds as I'd feel that'd be the sweet middle ground between a good counter for tunneling while not being so terrible for the killer to have to deal with.

adrenaline: I believe the nerf was very unnecessary. The perk affecting Freddy should’ve been removed that’s perfectly okay. The fact adrenaline not working when you are hooked on top of a lessened duration makes the perk underwhelming when as a perk that activates only once should be strong and the fact that getting hooked before the last generator is finished is a common thing it makes the perk feel like it doesn’t do anything for you.

Ultimate weapon: I’m fine with the change I think the range could use a slight buff but it’s in a more balanced spot now compared to its earliest iteration.

DS: this is technically a revert but I would like to see the skill check get either removed or have it be so big it’s very difficult to mess up. It’s perk is designed to help with tunneling something that may or may not happen to you in a game why does it need a skill check that you are pressured to land or else you completely lose it and the perk you equipped for that specific situation does nothing.

I want this version of the perk with scream. Unfortunately, BVHR already has plans to kill the perk if they add scream back by making the perk stationary. Between making perk stationary and this version with aura, I'd rather take aura.

they already have plan to change the perk. my feedback is to keep change 1 but not change 2. your probably right on not listening to any ideas. probably wasted effort.

I've seen those pics. Honestly it feels like someone mixed up the text of the aura read with the Blindness effect. I'd wait for confirmation of it acting like that in-game before kicking up a fuss

And my point is it might not and might just highlight a bad copy paste job. No telling which until it's in game or BHVR comments on it.

Uuuuuh. Is this a bug? This was in my loadout screen as of 04/30/2024.

15 meters around the locker you just opened is worthless.

Concerning Ultimate Weapon...

The screaming aspect of the perk made it more interesting. I truly don't believe we need more aura reading abilities, and frankly if it just made the scream and be blind I'd be absolutely fine. The lack of screaming removes the synergy of disturbing a hex cleanse, which is one of the very few ways you can actually counter a cleanse besides hitting them or pulling them off. Additionally it was actually funny and enjoyable to hear the individual survivor screams, as it was both surprising and sometimes funny.

I also feel as though Ultimate Weapon really makes Third Seal useless as a hex, as it's far more viable to just check a locker with UW or to use Mindbreaker for blindness than to waste a perk slot on a disposable hex.

I doubt anything will be changed or reverted, but it's still worth noting.

I'm going to reserve judgement on Ultimate Weapon until I can test the final version of it, considering there are some big question marks that would heavily affect how I feel about the perk.

For the other two, having sat with the changes for a little while, I'm favour of them.

Adrenaline is still a very, very strong perk, still top three strongest survivor perks in the game without a doubt. The changes just removed the most obnoxious free-escape edge cases, and made the speed boost more in line with other tools. No issues with these changes, great stuff.

Decisive Strike, from what I've seen, definitely seems more usable. I personally never really encountered that much tunnelling, but I have seen a few killers hit by DS since the changes, and it seemed to do a fair bit more to lengthen that chase. It's also still basically impossible to weaponise, so there's no real concerns.

Good changes. I'm a fan.