Distasteful killer habit has become popular
It is well known that sometimes trials get a bit heated for various reasons resulting on survivors teabagging the killer or killers hitting hooked survivors or nodding at downed/hoorked survivors.
The aforementioned situations are somewhat accepted and part of the game experience. However, many killer players are spamming W and S from behind a downed survivor imitating a #########. This is a distasteful and offensive behavior that simply cannot be part of the game experience given that women, minors and sexual abuse victims are part of the Dead by Daylight community.
Flashlight click-spam was nerfed because it was irritating for killer players, I think THIS is a way more sensitive and serious situation since it can be triggering on a sensitive topic therefore I respectfully ask developers to address this issue.
Thanks for your time
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Why is this such a hot topic all of a sudden??? -- Who are you watching that has this opinion that people have been spamming on the forums (and god knows where else)?
I think it's fine. If a Survivor has been griefing the Killer all game, they should be able to do stuff that griefs them back. And if the Killer is the instigator, then Survivors have a means to grief back too.
If this does become a bannable behaviour, then people are gonna be banned for no good reason a lot of the time. There's a bug in the game where Survivors teleport after being downed. If the Killer is adjusting their position to get the prompt and it's misconstrued, then a lot of innocent players will get banned. I've literally said out loud (as if the Survivor can hear me) "I promise I wasn't f***ing you just now, buggy prompts!"
I personally also find that behaviour towards a slugged Survivor funny. Gamers will always find a way to grief opponents with in game mechanics.
I can see your angle when it comes to sexual abuse victims, for both genders, coz remember, that stuff isn't exclusive to women. But as it is, it isn't a graphic animation. It's literally just stepping on them and treading their feet up and down their back, butt and legs.
When it comes to the kids play this game argument, this game is age rated high enough that if kids are playing it, they are of age where they have had a sexual education, and/or their parents consented for them to play a game not age appropriate for them. Also, I acknowledge DBD is not a sexual game, nor does it promote sexual content, it does however exist in the horror genre. The horror genre is accepting of all despicable acts, in order to evoke feelings of sorrow, fear, contempt, despair, anger etc.
Comparing this "minority-felt, offensive behaviour" to flashlight macro, which is an audio and visual spam that could cause hearing or vision issues to people susceptible to that kind thing, is not even remotely accurate.
I will state again, that I understand where this argument is coming from. I just don't agree with it. I am very curious who originated this uproar and rally though. What streamer or Youtuber was it that started it? I wanna see their original opinions on it, so I can best judge for myself if it should be removed or not. If they're able to articulate their points well that is, coz a lot of community members of this game simply cannot do that with their arguments.
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It's not always clear. I've thought a Pig was teabagging me but after the match they clarified it was a fat thumb when trying to put a RBT on.
In those situations where someone does get clipped and reported for trying to get the prompt before the Survivor crawls too far into the pallet will result in a ban. If they fix that "bug" then yeah, if they made it bannable, I'd be sad to see it go because some player do need a little griefing back after their behaviour initiating it, but I wouldn't complain. I'd just roll with it. But while that bug exists, this behaviour cannot be made bannable.
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Minors are part of the community of an 18+ rated game… That really is not an argument, we don't take into account people that are legally not allowed to even play the game.
Walking back and forth on a downed person is very far off from that, and before people on the forums brought this up I never even considered this to be the case, not even with a lot of imagination and I still think it is very far fetched. The origin of t-bagging is sexual and ghostface or pig can for example t-bag a downed survivor, you want to make that banable as well? Considering you are fine with survivors doing that to the killer? I mean sure the killer is not lying on the ground, but at least that term/behaviour has clearly such origins despite not being performed on top of the downed survivor, so what is the difference that one is fine and the other one is not?
I think both are completely fine, there is no animation that resembles anything like that, is just a goofy bm move and if you remove it people will come up with the next thing to be immature and petty towards each other. I really don't think this is problematic at all… Teabagging and this w s stuff are both so far away from their origin (or in the w s case the origin people seem to think it has…) that if you don't know it you would not even think about it… Besides is the point where we basically have an allowed bahaviour, walking over downed survivors, that is only supposed to be bannable based on ill itent? Would be a little bit weird wouldn't it?
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No it isn't cruel. It's necessary. Because when you're talking about (probably what is the only 'fix' for it) you do need to consider everything in order to determine if it's worth making it a bannable offense. So 'whataboutisms', and any other argument made (within logical reason of course), are all valid.
You're also only fixating on that one point I made too. Because I'm against this stance on every aspect of it.
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I agree with this completely. "Far fetched" is the perfect phrase to some up peoples offense to this BMing.
The first time I saw the original iteration of this was a Demogorgon, portal spamming against (I think it was Skermz). Every other Killer w/s spamming doesn't even come close to this. And even the Demogorgon one can be avoided because it has to animation spam, you can crawl away while they set up for it.
But yeah, I agree with you. This shouldn't really be an issue. It just seems like people wanting to be offended and someone rallied their viewers to mass protest.
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I think @_Onyx_ is right. But devs don't agree. If they did, I am pretty sure survivors would get means to communicate LONG TIME AGO. Because that would ACTUALLY be something that purely helps bridge solo vs swf, because it would actually make communication between survivors easier.
But that can't be, because "it would be used to BM more". (there's also the issue of consoles being in disadvantage, but convoluted way to ping meaningful things and getting clear information is still better then just 2 pings we currently have).
So if BM is the issue, then both tbagging AND w-s AND head nods should be also taken care of eventually (but people are creative and there will be new ways to bm until the game cease to be controllable)
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I saw it in two JRM videos, that stuff was hillarious, it looks so funny when he does the motion :D
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Depends on what form of communication, some time ago one of the mods stated, that for example a voice chat is not a feature the community has voiced to want… Wanting the gap between solo and swf closed seems to not fall under that category for some reason.
Honestly bm will happen regardless, and if people have to morse you to tell you to get lost or something, it is just not avoidable.
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