The state of solo survivor is reaching a breaking point

That does sound like bad matchmaking as well. Solo survivors can still perform well if everyone is good enough.

With that said, I do agree that solo survivor is in a bit of a rough state at the moment. More information buffs as well as nerfs to tunneling and camping would be more than welcome to help make the experience better for solo survivors.

I've given up on voicing solo queue concerns. Feels a bit like shouting into the wind at this point tbh

• a huge amount of killers and different ways to loop them, killers with more oppressive powers (with exceptions), smaller maps (with exceptions), fewer and less secure pallets (with exceptions), survivors who start the game with objectives different (perhaps to do challenges in the tome)... well, it's not easy to be a survivor in 2024, especially if you're new and have minimal experience. I hope that after the "health operation" on the killers in the last two years, Devs will start doing a "health operation" on SoloQ (because they are also a source of income I imagine). in these anniversary days (so new players), I have seen unimaginable things in my SoloQ experience 🤣

it's absolutely miserable to play, yes, especially when your teammates prefer to hide in a corner rather than helping

honestly you just gotta hope they fix matchmaking and people can thrive where they belong

I haven't loaded DbD in about a month. Some things I've noticed after fully dropping DbD and playing other multiplayer games:

1. The game isn't supposed to piss you off. That's not a feature.
2. The amount of bugs in DbD are absolutely not normal.
3. There is absolutely no sense of progression or meaning to the trials as a veteran player.
4. DbD could really do better in terms of respecting a player's time. I know this is comparing apples and oranges and they're two totally different games in two totally different genres, but FF14 is really good about this. I can get a lot done if I just want to hop on for an hour, or I can spend a few hours doing more difficult stuff. But at no point does the equivalent of bleeding out for 4 minutes, slugging for a 4k, absolute waste of time matchmaking, etc., happen.

This isn't just a solo q experience either, my swf is constantly on the back-foot in a majority of our matches. I'm the most enthusiastic to play the game of us, and it's to the point I wanna quit for a good while.

The power balance is so severely in the killers favor lately, I've had more fun playing killer than survivor. I'm not a killer main at all, it's just easier to get challenges done as one.

Honestly I feel this heavy. I think mmr needs to be adjusted or to add something that everyone in the lobby can see that actually is closer to people's skill level. Steam hours is nice, if they are even public. To be frank, I've seen some questionable games with people who have a lot of hours. My games vary from getting cracked juicers very rare, to people who crouch and hide all game/leave me on 1st hook to hit 2nd phase. I have literally no solace in these games, all I know is if they are high prestige assume the worst.

I would also like more transparency into their matchmaking. How come I, as someone who can at minimum (unless I mess up), get a gen chase+ relatively consistently, get paired with people who, die in less than 20 seconds, insta-throw pallets, dont even look behind them majority of the time, lest I need to mention the crouch/hide/afk gamers?

If it's really as straight forward as, get out and it goes up, die it does down, I can understand why solo queue feels horrible. If it's not taking into consideration anything else but living and dying, people who shouldn't go higher in mmr, get there. They fall down, get spared, and go back up, back down, hide and escape, down. Based on this theory of how it could work, you might even get lower mmr than you actually have.

Don't want to do gens, hide, avoid chase all game? Well lucky for you, you can enjoy the best part of the game imo, being chased, eventually going down (haha hope u guys were doing gens and not crouching o_0), rinse, repeat, maybe they commited to genning, gates open, you might get out. If they don't commit to genning, well, lets hope you hid after 2nd hook, if you get unhooked that is.

The main reason why SoloQ is in that state is because of survivors themselves. Not matchmaking, not balancing, not how killers play, just themselves.

Average survivors with low game sense (specially not making the right decision at the right time) and not playing as a team (including bringing perks that only benefit them and not even help progressing the true objective, that is doing gens) is what make most SoloQ games a true hell to play. Then, instead of trying to get and do better, they complain about the "40% average escape rate" and how the game is killer sided without understanding what an average means or that they are most likely in the lower half of it.

Coincidentally, Hens just uploaded a video today about the topic:

Who would have thought that if you are good at the game, have good game sense, and try to play as a team (which is the main strength of survivors, being 4 vs 1) would make you and your team mates win more games even in SoloQ?

I will apply your logic in reverse to answer: You think we should balance the game around those P100 survivors that, after hundreds of hours, still just press W and predrop pallets no matter what killers they are up against?

You could at least watch the video before going straight for the strawman argument, by the way.

EDIT:

They achieved a 90% win rate at the highest MMR. Does this mean that killers who can't achieve this are just bad at the game? […] Using extreme examples to prove a point like this is just silly and doesn't mean anything for 99% of the playerbase.

The difference is that the 64.8% escape rate they get in the video I posted is not just for his escapes but for every survivor in those 50 games. Meaning, most of those escapes are just randoms from that "99% of the playerbase" you are talking about.

That's why you should have at least watched the video before saying anything.

Do solo survivors really need more help, though?

I'd like to point out how many buffs solo que got in the past 2 years. Anti face camp, basekit BT, the new gen regression rework to prevent three gens, nerfs to gen regression perks across the board multiple times, a way for all survivors to see when another survivor is in chase, showing all survivors what specific action another survivor is doing at all times, the visual heartbeat, STBFL was nerfed, mangled was gutted, solo que has gotten a lot of help over the years. The one other thing they tried was basekit unbreakable, but that PTB it was tried in showed why that should never be attempted again.

I gotta ask, what more do you want? Basekit 5 second DS? Basekit Kindred? The sacrifice meter freezes when the killer is nearby, thus guaranteeing free unhooks? Killer losing movement speed when they chase the last survivor that was hooked? When will it be enough?

I assure you, I’m not trying to be rude or snarky, but at what point will solo survivors look at what they have and say, this is enough? More specifically, what are they actually looking for

I just edited to fully answer the edit of @I_CAME, but as I say, the escape rate on the video counts all 4 survivors in the match including him, and the final escape rate is 64.8%. So, you should have at least watched the video as well.

And my point had nothing to do with balancing in the first place, but the correct answer is no, the game should not be balanced around the top or bottom of the barrel, no matter how much of the player base is on either of those sides.

Hens does agree. I was watching his stream last week where he said true comp players don't want or expect the game to be balanced around them (paraphrasing).

I watched this video, and it honestly makes me feel slightly more validated on when I say survivor side needs more incentives to play as a team rather than the 'everyone for themselves' mindset.

I also play with this mindset of thinking ahead if I should die for the others to escape. And I wish chases had more BP incentives to be in them as well as acting more defensively for your team and even dying to keep another survivor from going down.

And my SoloQ games have been better… aside from teammates griefing or not playing the objectives, you can't fix that no matter what buff you give survivors. Sometimes they need to learn to be a team player too.

didn't count any dc's and early hook suicides. lol even this comp player gotta cherry pick his games so his win record wont tank. Gotta make the vib look good....not mad. Just not accurate solo q experience

Absolutely. One of the best changes DbD could make would be to lose the campfire. You set your build, queue up, and the match starts when you're up. Lose that entire song and dance where everyone just stands there for a minute and people inevitably dodge the lobby. Just start the trial. Get players in and out of trials faster. It would take a bit more doing from logistics standpoint, but they could remove the endgame screen sequence too and save the match results so you can view them as you queue for the next game. Would save 2 loading screens.