Weave Attunement + synergies too strong

It's by far weakest of all "soloq stomper" builds, simply because YOU being good makes countering the effect of ALL survivors possible, unlike literally any other perks

The effect is weak, the counter is easy, the rage against this is unjustifiable

This combo is miserable to deal with in solo queue. Running Plunderer's every game to play babysitter because people don't bother to learn the new perks isn't fun at all.

Yeah admittedly I was being a bit hyperbolic. I wouldn't say it's bad in average matches, just no where even remotely close to top 10 good. It's decently usable if there's at least 3+ items, smaller map, and the survivors are bad. If it was touched at all I'd be closer to buffing it since I think it definitely does lean weak.

However if we're talking strength "objectively", IE good vs good, then yeah it's very bad. I suppose as usual people are basing their power level of it on average matches which is bad players in general and everything's good against bad players. I tend to base my opinions typically always on good vs good. If something's good vs 90% of players but bad vs the good 10% then to me it's still bad since we measure objective by good vs good and not average matches, and I care about winning against equally good players, not winning against bad players.

If the pinhead i just faced with my duo didnt had this discusting combo we would have had atleast a chance for escape, and dont get me in on the FTP buckle combo since this weave is PERMANENT and that other combo is not and needs atleast 2 people to make it work

the oblivious status effect needs to go atleast, its too much for 1 perk

Its a difference if something is "remotely usable" or plainly overtuned. This combo is entirely overtuned. There is no legit counterplay unless everyone has 180 IQ.

Weave Attunement just has to go. There is no way this perk fits well into the game. You wopuld have to make so many prerequisites to make this perk not overtuned, that it would be barely even niche.

"There is no legit counterplay unless everyone has 180 IQ."

Pick up item. Walk to map edge. Put down item.

That..is 180 IQ? Really? If the bar is that low then everything is OP.

"Weave Attunement just has to go. There is no way this perk fits well
into the game. You wopuld have to make so many prerequisites to make
this perk not overtuned, that it would be barely even niche."

It's a perfectly designed perk. It has very clear and easy to do counter play. The combo is barely good enough. The slightest nerf and it goes into bad territory.

"Does weave attunement warns survs it's in use?"

It does.

The biggest problem with Weave is that many times it's so hard to even find the item that's revealing you. Like, you'll see the icon, but often times the item is hard to see, and its location is hard to pinpoint for one of many different reasons. All the time wasted just trying to find a dropped item is massive value for the killer.

The range of Weave is also too large imo. A few well-placed items can cover a huge area and provide invaluable intel.

And even then the idea of dropping items at the edge of the map feels rather absurd. I mean, I've done it as well, but you have to think about it.. it also wastes a ton of your time. And then let's say you've got a toolbox you want to use at a gen, and there is a now-depleted flashlight right there as well revealing your aura at all times… So you're telling me the solution is drop my box, pick up the torch, go all the way to the edge of the map, drop it, then go back to the gen and pick up my item.. Not only has my aura been revealed all this time, and not only am I oblivious for like a minute, but I've also wasted all this time just juggling the items when I could have been working on the generator.

It's just god awful. I've just given up on bringing items, because I am so sick and tired of dealing with this perk, and cancerous Franklins which also just eliminates your item anyway.

Not bringing items and running plunderers isn't a "counter". It's a desperation measure.

I’d rather deal with this perk combination, than deal with 100% iron will.

At least with this perk combination, survivors can use triangulation (the perk notifies survivors when they are in range of a dropped item) to find the items on the ground.

Meanwhile, if a survivor is hiding in a locker, or behind a wall, and has 100% iron will….. well too bad for the killer because it’s zero sound, and the killer is just expected to open every locker, and loop around every object, to try to find that survivor.

This perk combination is also very unreliable, and isn't worth running at higher MMR, where killers are more likely to go against coordinated SWFs that will just voice comm each other to drop their items far away from anything useful.

It's much more reliable to just play quad slowdown, where you don't need to worry about survivors that can voice comm your perks away. Killers should pick perks that are good against coordinated SWFs, because those are the survivors that are the hardest to beat. Purposely picking perks that are weak against coordinated SWFs, just sounds like a waste of perk slots.

So, how do you locate the item in question if you did not drop it by yourself?

Great idea, with no kind of direction or whatsoever. Sigh.