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2v8 NEEDS Survivor bots

Marioneo
Marioneo Member Posts: 808
edited July 28 in Feedback and Suggestions

Queue times are extremely long for both sides and need bots on the Survivor side to help fill matches just add 2-4 bots to help get quicker matches.

Survivors have stated they want a casual unbalanced chaotic gamemode so adding bots to help fill and alleviate the 40min queue times would be reasonable and fair

Devs if your seeing this please add this to the mode not just disconnection bots and mods and community managers please pass this to the Devs.

Post edited by EQWashu on

Comments

  • Fuzzycube
    Fuzzycube Member Posts: 262

    I like this idea, survivor bots might actually do gens too!

  • ChurchofPig
    ChurchofPig Member Posts: 2,766

    This is honestly the only real problem I see with going with this idea. Sure it would help a lot of the killers out because queue times will be vastly shorter, but then survivors are stuck with bots if there even are any real survivors in the round to begin with.

  • Sadako_Best_Girl
    Sadako_Best_Girl Member Posts: 662

    Honestly yeah. You fix the issue of having useless teammates and qeue times. I wouldn't mind having 2 bots as teammates.

  • cclain
    cclain Member Posts: 110

    or maybe buff survivor when 2 killer is on one survivor ? or whatever
    Their no fun being trap between 2 killer and see 100% death coming.
    if the mod doesn't have enough survivors it's not strong/funny enough to be play as a survivor

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,516
    edited July 27

    Im thinking maybe 2vs6 would be best and they need to add something interesting for survivors. Maybe new ways to interact with killer.

  • Halloulle
    Halloulle Member Posts: 1,344

    Looking at how surv bots behave… I would definitely not Q up for that mode anymore (and I also wouldn't go play normal instead; I'd just go back to playing sth else).

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,420
    edited July 27

    As I said in another topic: I think they missed a trick here.

    While killers get a bonus skill when they 'team up', a survivor who is doubled-teamed by both killers is done for.

    Instead of an unlockable skill when on death hook (or maybe as well as) there should be a situational chase skill that activates when chase is activated by both killers at the same time.

    Escapist: Activates Lithe and Quick and Quiet effects for 30 seconds

    Guide: Gains Stake Out tokens that can apply to other survivors on the same gen

    Medic: Charges a We'll Make It effect and grants an Inner Healing token

    Scout: Procs Distortion effects for 30 seconds

    That would give survivors the edge needed to drop the number of survivors from 8 to 5 or 6 I think, along with reducing it from 8/13 gens to 6/9.

  • Rudjohns
    Rudjohns Member Posts: 2,175

    I'm not playing survivor if theres bots in my match

    I will gladly add another bot

  • Marioneo
    Marioneo Member Posts: 808
  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,061

    funny how it was mainly killers calling for a 2v8 because they thought it would be an absolute domination mode - now it’s not they’re calling for 2v6/5. It’s just proof some people arent able to be pleased.

    I think the mode is really fun and no one is playing it sweaty which is what the game has desperately needed. I’m sad it’s only timed cause going back to the slowness of 1v4 is going to be a killer.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,420
    edited July 28

    Absolutely nothing to do with dominating. You can adjust the balance to suit the numbers as they have done here by removing hooks and increasing gen numbers/decreasing gen times.

    It shouldn't be 2v8 because there's simply not enough people playing survivor.

    Reduce the number of survivors, but adjust balanceto account for it; give survivors extra perk effects, such as bonus chase skills that activate when chased by both killers at once. That will make playing survivor more appealing because you'll get a leg up when in a 'pincer' chase that currently has little chance of escape.

    I would love to play killer in this mode, but I'm not waiting 20 minutes for a 4 minute game. Particularly when my only viable option is Wraith.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,061

    2v6 wouldn’t be feasible against two killers - I’ve played the mode pretty extensively and any killers who have committed to playing it are actually very strong.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,420
    edited July 28

    Of course it would. Balance is not determined by player numbers.

    Why do you think they removed hooks?

    Why do you think survivors need to repair 8 gens?

    You MAKE 2v6 work by changing the mechanics to favour survivors.

    Have them repair 6/10 gens at 60s each.

    Give them extra tools to deal with double-killer chases. (This alone would make playing survivor more appealing because it would be something new for survivors that isn't simply a faster way to die)

    Stop revealing survivor auras every 2 seconds so that hiding still has its place.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,061
    edited July 28

    Personally, and with the experience I have of the mode, I feel there is no way you can change the mechanics without severely hindering the killers which again would be unpalatable.

    The current play style in 2v8 has quickly become ‘team up and knock down’ . Killers are tag teaming survivors to get quick downs in quick succession. It’s become a common site to have 3-4 people on hook at the same time multiple times per match now. They then make a habit of going across the map to the hooks to repeat this on rescuers and repeat the cycle. The only reason this isn’t being called out for camping or tunnelling is because there are so many people at the moment it’s manageable to cope with it. It also feeds into the quick play style BHVR have clearly tried to do for.

    If you reduce the amount of people and it won’t be. You end up with the equivalent of slugging 3 people at 4 gens in the main game which is not something I want to see repeated.

    The only way to combat this would be to give survivors more health states to discourage the tendency to team up for a quick one-two hit which would not be well received. I also think having less aura reading wouldn’t be well received as there would be too many people to keep track of still. Let’s be honest they want the same set up as now, with less people to get kills quicker. I understand it but it’s not balanced.


    With all due respect you admit yourself to not having played the mode much. I’ve played it exclusively since it launched and can see how it is right now.

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,420
    edited July 28

    I wish I could play it more.

    Unfortunately the wait times make it unplayable.

    So it doesn't work as 2v8.

    I literally just gave suggestions two posts in a row to solve the issues you've just said.

    If survivors weren't sitting ducks when faced with two killers at once, all of your issues would be moot.

    Chase activates with both killers at once = survivors get extra powers. Extra speed, no scratchmarks, endurance, take your pick. Pincer movements are no longer a guaranteed down and instead become a calculated risk trade off.

  • jajay119
    jajay119 Member Posts: 1,061

    And I explained why I don’t think your solutions were suitable.

    im sorry the waits are so long for you, but as I survivor main I definitely wouldn’t say survivors are ‘powerless’. I’ve been having a lot of fun, way more than in the main game, with it and that accounts for the fact I don’t really escape a lot too. Sometimes I have and a few times I’ve got the hatch too which has been really rewarding. More often than not though I’ve still been sacrificed… but it’s fun and that’s what the main mode is lacking imo.

  • Hex_Ignored
    Hex_Ignored Member Posts: 1,917
    edited July 28

    If a mode is that unpopular that no normal player wants to queue up for it (even with a never before seen bp bonus) and you need to fill it with bots, I'd say that there is something wrong with that mode.

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    I don't play DBD to play with bots, if every 2v8 game had bots in it from the start, I'd stop wanting to play it.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,124

    Play survivor. If you’re unhappy with wait times for killer… you can alleviate that at least for others by queuing as survivor. Maybe other killer mains will in turn do that for you.

  • CrackedShevaMain
    CrackedShevaMain Member Posts: 478

    I would legit leave matches if I’m loading in with bots from the start.