Slugging for the 4k

I do understand the game system - I also understand that there are challenges that require a 4k. However, it has no effect on my opinion of these people.

True. You have every right to jump to conclusions about other people playing a video game within the rules. Make all the assumptions you want, because you know the old saying about assumptions right? ;) I had to consider whether I feel called out, to make sure I wasn't responding due to personal bias. I quickly reached the conclusion that I do not feel that way. The truth is I play video games for fun and the rest of you are just flashing lights on the screen. I don't take anything personal, either what happens in the matches or the spraying bile here. I think people who get upset over what happens in video games, or those that try to draw real life information from the same, must be most unfortunate indeed. I feel for them, but there really isn't anything I can do other than point out the obvious.

The evidence I give you now, for your consideration, is anecdotal entirely. I'm absolutely ruthless in matches, unless a weird mood takes me I'm going to 4K every time I can. I rarely give the hatch. I don't just want to win, I want to obliterate my opponents. I enjoy the matches more when they are hard, and I'm glad we have MMR and want to have to sweat. Games like that are a hoot. Away from the game, I'm considered friendly, reliable and very mellow. I would go so far, self serving as it sounds, to say that I'm well-liked and get along with others. I don't have any enemies, that I know of. The people I'm "competing" with in the real world are nameless faces whom I never meet directly. I suppose they don't care for me much, although it is unlikely they know my name anymore than I know theirs. If what I am saying is true, I would be a statistical outlier in so far as how YOU make assumptions about character and ethics. I would disagree, however, as know a lot of the most hardcore Players in this game (and other games) and most of them are great people. It is almost as if being competitive in video games has nothing to do with anything else.

Well, yeah. If they did a big change like that they would have to replace/retire some challenges. I've watched Hatch go through a long evolution, and it changing again is possible. I doubt they would ever remove it from the game entirely though. All in all I, I don't speculate or advocate much on what I want to see (or see removed) from the game because it feels like wasted energy. The DEV do what they do based on their business model and many other things we will never know or likely understand. I doubt they get any warm feelings after all these years when they get praise, nor do I think they even notice heckling. There is so much of both, that one would simply become immune over time.

All in all I think they do a good job. They tell us roughly the target numbers they are looking for and are close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades to those target goals. They tweak things for the most part, rather than making big sweeping changes because this isn't a game to them; it is a business and who wants to accidentally kill the goose that lays golden eggs? Incremental change, when needed, is safer than getting hit by the anvil of "unintended consequences" of massive overhauls. If we are to judge Dead by Daylight, there are only two things that seem relevant:

1. Are you still playing the game, angry and complaining or not? If you are they are doing more right than wrong.
2. How do their numbers look as far as their Player Base? Are they consistent despite normal ups and downs? If so they are ok.

The individual and the mob are the only two measurements that really have meaning. You and I are here talking about the game. Even the people here venting about the game are still playing the game. Clearly the game is more right than wrong. ;)

I think a lot of people in here are misunderstanding. If the killer has to slug for whatever reason I think it's ok to do so. But if the survivor is beeing slugged for too long he should be allowed to kill himself. That's it. I experienced this as a killer and as a survivor and I know how boring it is. We can kill ourselves on the hook so why not while in the ground too?

It isn't entirely their fault.

Achievements and some rift challenges require a 4k.

That being said they need to rework those aspects of the game and then introduce a mechanic preventing slugging for the 4k entirely. Discouragement will not work.

I know killing yourself could be abused. On my first comment about this post I was suggesting to be able to do this only if you have been slugged for at least 90 seconds. Basekit ub with longer timer maybe, but the killer can camp you while in the ground and hit you when you get up and at that point if the killer slugs everyone he looses the slug utility by a lot and if he is just beeing mean to the survivor you are just prolonging the game for nothing so it needs soul guard too basekit then. It's too complicated

Were did I say they are supposed to let one out? Nice straw man argument.

I was referring to situations where 2+ survivors are slugged to find the last survivor. When the slugged survivors even have unlimited unbreakable, so slugging them is just a giant waste of time, without achieving anything.

Is it really to much to ask to just hook the slugged survivors and gamble a hatch escape? When 1vs2 is already heavily tilted in the killers favor.

Why this obsession with "doing the objective 100%"? It's already prevalent enough in classical mode, why continue with it in a limited game mode supposed to be fun, not Uber competitive?

You're just as bad as the killer going for the 4k. 4k actually makes the game shorter overall. Say he slugs you, goes for other survivor, hooks them, comes back hooks you.

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He hooks you, other survivor rats out, he then searches for hatch, closes it, patrols doors for the entire timer just for last survivor to be doing totems and chests and then die to the timer.

If anything you crawling to a corner is extending the game for the other two lmao.

Slugging for the 4k overall is quicker for the killer player as it completely avoids end game.

And I would suggest, with only good intentions, that despising BHVR and letting it run rampant in your emotions doesn't hurt them, but it does negatively impact YOU. I know it is cliche but your fun will go up and your stress will go down when you simply stop worrying about the things you have no power over, and focus on the things you do. The hackers thing is a pet peeve of mine too, as I think that with a game as successful as this they could, if they so desired, go for a more effective (if more expensive) form of anti-cheat. That, however, is an example of something I have no power over, so I just ignore it. When the hackers become too big an issue for me I stop playing. That I have power over.

You do have the option to quit the match. Or will the survivors family die from doing that?

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Yes with a penalty lol but if killers don't get 4k they don't as much BP so could say the penalty for killers is less BP for 3k instead of 4. My point is your comment saying about killers family might die if they don't get 4k making it out to be a life or death situation irl... So survivors get a little penalty for leaving, big deal, will survivors family die if they leave the match? Difference is killers getting 4k is part of the game. If your going to leave matches that often then maybe the game isn't for you?

That's just survivors not trying, of course killers can 4k when survivors decide to give it for free, even with hatches

No killer skill is related to that, finding completely hiding survivors are literally not possible and even bannable in certain circumstance, so yes, it's impossible to get 4k at all, as long as survivors are actually trying

You’re wasting your own time more than the killer’s.