Unfair Games
Hello, I would like to ask when you will finally make fair games. Are killers faster than survivors? Why! It's unfair, they have Power and addons in addition to perks.Why the Doctor doesn't get a Rework! It's unfair that his Power can go through objects and you can't use Palettes or Windows with it.Add some protection against the Doctor to Stop him (preferably permanent).
Why is there no Ban system? Survivors would choose 1 Killer they don't want to meet before the game. If there are 4 different Killers, 1 will be chosen at random and not allowed to play that round. If at least 2 survivors match, the selected Killer will not play.Also add Power for the Survivors to even out the powers!!!I'm sorry, but the game is pointless when Killer is always on Top, because they're the only ones who get love and the others are frowned upon.
If anyone cares about the game, the Survivors will get at least 2 perks, which will make the game more difficult for all the Killers. Palettes are useless there anyway when he's a Range Killer. Then there's no point in even playing because it always gets you.Great game!!!
Camping and Tunneling - the best mechanics and best friends of the Killers. Mechanics for which there is no penalty. Cool! Killers always have advantages.
It's not nice and unfair when the Killer runs after 1 Survivor or waits. He still gets a pat on the back for that. These Killers (kids) should be Banned!!!
One can't even really enjoy and play the game! What's the point then?
If anyone comments on this post, just normal comments. Thank you.
Not the type of players crying for Killers etc. Normal comments
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Are you saying killers should be the same speed or slower than survivors?
And saying the Doctor, a mid tier killer needs to be nerfed into the ground?
And banning certain killers from being chosen? Do you not know how lobbies work? The killer gets put in a lobby as the killer they chose, they cannot switch killers when they are in a lobby.
Survivors don't need powers, they make up for no powers by having 4 of them.
Please try playing killer and getting a bit more experience.
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Why are there so many people that don't understand it's physically impossible to get a survivor if they have the same speed. A normal 4.6 m1-killer without movement-ability in some form closes 0,6 meters of distance per second, so if a survivor is 10 meter in the distance you already need over 15 seconds to close it, of course in reality you can swing much sooner but that's just to show how long it already takes.
If we now look at the same speed you are effectively never catching up in a straight line EXCEPT if you got in range to start the chase them after 15 seconds you get bloodlust 1 and you close 0,2 meters of distance per second until the next tier of bloodlust. That physically with gens ONLY taking 90 seconds alone impossible to win.
Doctor is even with this power not that strong of a killer, he's increadible exhausting to play and you need to spam you power 15000 times if you don't play him since ages and know the timing perfectly at what point the time would be better invested in blight or something.
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What's the definition of a "Normal Comment"?
The second reply to your post went into the specifics of how speed affects chases using math.
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This is a 4v1 game. As in 4 survivors vs. 1 killer. That puts the survivors at a significant advantage from the get go. So of course the killer needs to have the upper hand in other situations to balance that out.
In case of DBD that is the chase. Killers move faster (which is 100% necessary and can never change) and survivors have resources like pallets and windows that they can use to delay the killer. Your vault speed as a survivor is a lot faster than the killer's and killers (except Legion, Wesker and Chucky) can't vault pallets. If killers didn't have the upper hand in chase, nothing in this game would work.
The reason killers have powers and survivors don't comes to down to the same reason. The killer cannot simply play a collection of 1v1s but they have to compete in the 4v1. Their power, combined with the speed advantage, is supposed to even the odds.
Each killer has a different power and different counterplay. Ranged killers in general don't care as much about pallets but that doesn't mean that pallets are useless or you can't win against them. You can effectively make the loop a lot longer for the killer by dropping a pallet early and vaulting it. The killer won't be able to follow you and because they can't hit you through objects, their ranged power becomes a lot weaker.
It seems like you do not understand the very basics of the game yet and are frustrated as a result. Give it a bit more time, play killer yourself (playing both sides teaches you a lot more about the game than only playing one side), read up on what different killer powers actually do, watch YouTube content about the game or ask for help learning on the forums and you'll soon get the hang of it.
Good luck and see you in the fog.
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Normal Comments:
- no swearing
- no pampering of Killers
- only an objective view
- no Spam
- somewhat supportive comments (for better gameplay)
- Survivors welcome
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I think Doctor is already pretty well balanced, even tho it might seem unfair he can shock through a wall.
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Please no comments criticizing me or my content. Thank you.
Only those who want to support or encourage the fight for Survivors' rights and a fair fight should write. Thank you once again.
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no pampering of Killers
Survivors welcome
Those two items in your list eclipse everything else in the list and suggest you're either looking for an echo chamber (the official forums aren't the place for that, you want a private Discord group or something) or this is a rant post and you're looking for other survivors to vent about their bad experiences in the game. Vent posts aren't uncommon, and in this game they're quite understandable, but you should mark it as such so people don't waste your time and their own time trying to explain the game mechanics to you.
Yeah, that really implies you're looking for an echo chamber. There have been posts trying to help you understand the game and get better at it, but you see those as criticism rather than sympathetic as we've all been there and those posters were trying to give you the wisdom of their experience and save you some of the pain of learning the hard way.
There's no such thing as "survivors' rights." It's a video game. DbD survivors are not an actual group of people who need representation in the world. The gameplay is designed as it is because it's an asymmetrical game and thus has different requirements from a symmetrical game. Most players are used to symmetrical PvP games and don't immediately understand the difference as it's not intuitive, especially when you're not used to the specifics of 1v4.
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One just wants to point out what is wrong with the game. It is perhaps difficult to understand that one wants to enjoy the game!
But it doesn't work if the Killer side is on a higher level than the Survivor side. Then the game loses its meaning.
If you don't understand it and prefer to support the prevailing party, then please don't write. Thank you for your understanding.0 -
It's hard to throw a post on here and see normal responses etc. Because people often like to screw it up.
It was a mistake to put something here. People don't have respect and repsect.0 -
So "Agree with me only"
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I'd rather write to support, that will be better
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I think you're looking for DBD Twitter or tiktok. They'd eat this screed up.
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Respect goes both ways. When experienced players give you advice on how to play against the things you consider overpowered because you haven't learned how to counter different killers' powers, the person giving advice is not being disrespectful. Saying you don't want to listen to opinions that are different from yours after someone has tried to help, that is disrespectful.
it doesn't work if the Killer side is on a higher level than the Survivor side
Then there would only be one killer and one survivor, or there would be four killers and four survivors. Because you are describing the balance of a symmetrical game.
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If you want me out, say so right away. Why should people like me even write anything. To complain about something.
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I asked you questions that I wanted you to elaborate on.
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Is that what you really got from my comment? No one has tried to push you out. But perhaps you should take a short break and go do something that relaxes you. If you feel that people who are trying to help you are actually attacking your or trying to push you out, then it seems like you are having a dramatic emotional response to the video game and to people trying to help you better enjoy said video game. No one is personally attacking you. Disagreeing with someone is not a personal attack, and if you don't realize that then you have been spending too much time with people who parrot your opinions. It is a normal part of life that we come across people with whom we disagree.
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Not slower than the Survivor, but the same.
The Doctor needs Rework, especially when he uses the ability across the entire map and even through objects.And the Force wouldn't hurt the Survivors, or more perks if they could use them
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No, it's not like that, but I don't like it when people sympathize with killers. I'm mainly a survivor and I just want to get something out of the game, some fun. You can't do anything in that game.
And yes, I'm also emotionally frustrated because I'm going through an illness right now and I have to sleep with a breathing mask at night because of it.But I appreciate what you wrote, I know, but minor changes could at least be made, at least 1 perk to protect survivors.
So sorry for everything.0 -
And I would like to ask where the concepts for the new Killers and survivors go, I have something and I would like to show it.
And I apologize to everyone
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I am sorry that you are going through hard times. I will be straight up with you: DbD is not a good game for times when you are emotionally stressed. Even if the changes you suggested were made, they would not be made tomorrow, they would take a very long time to implement.
Dead by Daylight is a notoriously bad experience for new players. It takes hundreds of hours to learn how to play, because it takes learning all the maps, learning killer powers, learning perks, learning add-ons, learning how to loop. There's no getting around those things, they are core parts of DbD and they change and grow with each update to the game.
Taking breaks from DbD is good. I myself take long breaks from DbD. I play both survivor and killer (much more survivor than killer, lately, but I don't completely ignore the killer role), and I pretty much only play for events. Maybe I turn the game on for new tome challenges, but mostly events. It is good to take breaks from this game. Most people who play the game will agree that if they don't take breaks, it quickly becomes unfun.
You should take care of yourself and play something more suited to your state of mind, whether that's a symmetrical PvP game or a story-driven PvE game or even something relaxing like Animal Crossing (I play Animal Crossing, it's a relaxing game if you don't take fishing too seriously and don't focus on the crushing debt). Mental and emotional stress negatively affects the body and can have damaging physical repercussions even without illness involved. No one wishes that on you. We want to see you enjoy the game or, if you can't, we want to see you understand that sooner rather than later so you don't lose time to something that will only make you unhappy. Time is precious to us all.
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Thank You very much.
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Thank you very much for your understanding and I apologize once again, I should probably take a break, a longer break.
I mainly play as a Survivor, I haven't found a Killer yet that I enjoy and that I would like to learn.I know you're right and so are the others and what I wrote is nonsense, but at least something tiny could definitely be improved, for both sides.
Thank you again for your understanding and I hope to enjoy the game better after the break.
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Thank you very much for your understanding and I apologize once again
It is no problem at all. You are absolutely not the first person to be frustrated by this game. It's a natural reaction. We have all been there.
I haven't found a Killer yet that I enjoy and that I would like to learn.
It can be tough because killer is lonely. It's a completely different experience from playing survivor. If you didn't play killer during the first release of 2v8 mode, you may want to try when it releases again in November. There will be a few more killers available to play as than there were during the first release.
I hope to enjoy the game better after the break.
I hope you do, too :)
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Why?
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Have you ever watched people play on medium or higher levels? Survivors usually have the upper hand in most cases.
It is normal that killers are overwhelming for new players and they often think they are op, but they really aren't. Maybe you should play some killer for a while so that you see that after 20 wins with the same killer you will get much harder matches.
If it comforts you, 6 years ago I also thought that Doc is op, because you could not hide against him (back then he was even more annoying lol) and that it was unfair that killers are faster. But I quickly leant (because I also played killer) that the extra speed is necessary because a) the killer has a larger hitbox and therefore can't loop as efficient as a survivor can (Videos on YT can show that well) and b) they would take forever to get you. If you want to see or experience how tiring it is to chase survivors when you are barely faster, watch a video with a Mirror Myers (Myers with Scratched mirror makes him 105% instead of 115%) or look up any video of someone using Hope and Made For This from about a year ago (both perks together made you about 110% or something).
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