Pyramid Head's torment needs a change
Honestly getting sick Pyramid Head players being allowed a free mori after hooking a survivor affected by torment and not bothering to send them to the cage. Either make torment wear off or remove his ability to mori survivor's without sending them to the cage at all
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Or maybe don't step on the goo.
Also how is being moried different from being sent to a cage? He can only mori you when you're on death hook. Sending you to a cage in that situation would change nothing.
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Because it's hardly fair that torment doesn't go away if he doesn't send you to the cage. It shouldn't last all game.
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Yet you control if you get affected by torment at all. It's not like Wesker, Nemesis or Plague, where they can infect you willingly. If you tread carefully and watch your step, there's no reason for you to get infected with torment at all. That's why you can't remove it like the other infections I mentioned.
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In a way its like mistepping in real life: you can go down the slippery slope, because its more easy and seems to be scott free at the moment - but it will burden your soul and you will have to pay dearly at a later date. Or you can take the harder and more painful choice by literaly going OUT of your way to walk into harms ways and soak up one of the tough hits that life sometimes throws your way. Pyramid Heads power is quite literally the most lore accurate of them all, and thats so beautiful, yet seldom appreciated.
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- You can crouch walk through it and not be tormented
- If you free someone from a cage both of you become untormented
- It’s literally a basekit Mori that has an extra requirement so it’s not free at all
- trails can’t be near gens or hooks or gates
- They only last 90 seconds
Its Fine how it is
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Pyramid Head can do his quick Mori because in that situation there is no practical difference between getting Mori'd and getting sent to a cage to die instantly. You are in a situation where you would die either way, no matter what, so the only real difference is the chop wastes less of everyone's time.
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If they made the cages stronger anti-camp (like 2v8 so he can't camp the uncage for a free down with power + range add-ons) and gave basekit BT out of a cage rescue I'd have no issue. Realistically the power is only dodgeable if you shift+W, he is meant to torment you eventually, which is fine save for how easy it is to camp and tunnel out with cages.
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Torment has no other status effects. You're not hindered, you're not oblivious, blinded or anything for that matter. It's not "Unfair" by any means truthfully.
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I am so happy! So many fine folks chiming in to defend ma boi Pyramid Head <3
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Nah nah nah she obviously cooking she's right we need more status effects on trail of torment
Give it Hindred, Mangled, Deep wounds it is barbwire after all
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I thought clown was your boy🤔
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there is nothing about pyramid head that needs chnages other than him getting an addon pass
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facts
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a bunch of killer powers are like that - they arent exactly straightforward "fitting" but the gameplay they create just perfectly captures the idea behind the character or what it might feel like to deal with them.
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when they were global nerfing sloppy butcher by adding timer to it, they sneaked this funny change to one of Pyramid Head's addons
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Make it basekit
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Why would someone playing Pyramid Head even hook someone who's Tormented instead of caging them?
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The cage sends the person straight to the other side of the map, as far away from Pyramid Head as possible. There could be a gen over there that the killer knows is pressured right now, that gen could even be next to the exit gate, giving them basically a free escape. Pyramid Head could know of a survivor with a Flashlight hot on pursuit and wants to bait them out.
Sometimes a hook is just more preferable from its location, like central and right next to the main gen, so that both can be patroled and kept an eye on. And of course, sometimes the killer might want to preserve the tormented status for the mori, as both the unhooked and the unhooker lose their tormented status.
Pyramid Heads cage isn't just a no-brainer every time its available, it has lots of nuances to it that might elude the careless observer.
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Nah. I play Clown every now and then, but not that much. I wish I could play his yellow bottles as good as Arinad, but I am not ready to invest that much painful hours into Clown … and reading that book :D
But I like Clown enough and reconed that not too many would use his profile pic as their avatar, thats why I picked that one. But Pyramid Head is my one and only main, he is just too good and I am pretty deadly with him.
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complaining about a killer who hasn’t been changed in ages is funny lol
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Not entirely true, ever since Pyramid head's release, his trails have been ridiculously buggy, often disappearing for no reason despite still being present in terms of survivors being able to stand in them.
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Also to add to this, we can't forget that hooking perks exist. Even though I don't use them on him, a lot of people do - if my choice is between getting a Pain Res or a cage, and I'm not chasing another survivor right by me, I'm picking the Pain Res
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It's time to main Urban Evasion
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Nah, keep the permanent torment and add back that PTB change of torment on your M2 attack too.
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Also the Killer Instinct Add-on for Freddy which is surprisingly good.
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He doesn't need changes. There are plenty of ways to counter it, and whilst on a very rare occasion it's impossible to avoid, the vast majority are avoidable by degrees.
Ultimately, if you're on last hook anyway when down, it's either the Hook, a Mori Offering, or the Torment Mori. There's very little difference.
It's best to learn how to avoid the Trails. They are certainly far less problematic to deal with than his blast. Learn the Killer and, if you really don't want Torment and are cornered between The Executioner and Trails, crouch and take the hit. He may down you, but at least you avoid Torment.
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that one should be basekit, ngl
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Find you hit you twice hook/cage you, find you again hit you twice hook/cage you, find you again hit you twice after you have tormented yourself = free?
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I love it when people say “free” 🤣 it’s wild.
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No. There would be NO reason to play pyramid head over artist if you were forced to cage to be able to mori. Its just giving the survivors one freebie before being mori'd which you complained about it and even then caging vs tormented mori is about the same duration. Not to mention caging is overall worse because you NEED pressure perks as phead and a lot of those come from hooking.
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PH is perfectly fine the way he is, if anything I'd buff his addons but I can't talk on that too much since I main him
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That's like 1 of 2 powers he even has. That's the point. It's not like Myers where it's an add-on based, "Hey! I've never damaged or hooked you before, but you die instantly!"
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You have a very personal definition of "free".
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