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Small Tomb Raider accurate Hardened Buff please?

UndeddJester
UndeddJester Member Posts: 3,607
edited January 8 in Feedback and Suggestions

Preamble

One of my favourite subtle and lesser known effects in DBD is the tertiary effect of Balanced Landing, where when you fall from height, you do so without screaming (the first being the haste boost, and second being the reduced stagger).

This not screaming effect is pretty cool as you can drop out of sight of the killer, without giving away the fact you've done so…. however as far as the survivor is concerned this effect is mostly wasted on Balanced Landing… you are gonna sprint away with +50% haste and no stagger anyway, so who cares if the killer hears you? It's primary purpose in the game is mostly as a clue to killers that the survivor has BL.

As such, there are extremely niche scenarios where this effect can be useful to completely ditch the killer in no man's land, but for the most part this effect never comes up, and it's also frustratingly tied to exhaustion… if you are exhausted, it no longer works, which is the only time really when the effect would actually be useful…

TLDR

Hardened is not a great perk for the time investment it requires to get up, and the fact the value is only granted if you face scream killer powers/add-ons/perks, or you take Scene Partner yourself (which already pretty much does the same thing) for an effect that is not that amazing, it is very hard to justify a perk slot for it, even if you're playing it for fun…

Thus a small buff to Hardened I would like to see:

  • Suppresses the urge to scream from any cause and all noises associated with falling.
  • Whenever screams or falling noises are suppressed the Aura of the Killer is revealed to you for 3/4/5 seconds.

I know people will say this is still trash and not worth running, but it would be a thematically accurate change that lets off meta builders have a quirky little effect that they can ensure they can actually trigger.

Of course we could probably even add the old version of Iron Will (70% quieter grunts of pain) and it would still be underpowered… but that's a different suggestion… The point is I would love this no falling noise effect from BL to be made generally available on some perk, and Hardened seems a decent candidate.

Comments

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 7,098

    I mean like you said, that would not make the perk that much better but I'm not opposed to the change.

    But while we're at it, I'd also change it to let it activate from any combination of 2 totem/chest interactions (rather than specifically needing one of each) and bump the aura reveal up to 6 seconds.

    The only reason I'm hesitant to make it longer than 6 seconds is to not completely mess up Clown and Doctor since it actually is a good perk against them (but it's not good in 95% of games).

    In its current state I usually only use it with Dramaturgy, because it replaces the random scream with a useful aura read meaning that you have a 3/4 chance to get a positive effect.

  • Oputeeva
    Oputeeva Member Posts: 205
    edited January 8

    Finesse should also be buffed so it works when you are injured too, for now all the Lara's perks are bad, useless, when killers always has great perks!

  • UndeddJester
    UndeddJester Member Posts: 3,607

    I'd agree with that, makes it a perk you can run in a bones or loot build... I dig it.

    Also slick combo, I might try that out later xD