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Darth Vader would work just fine in DBD lore and game play wise.. Change my mind.
With characters like Trickster in DBD, I don't see why so many would be against Darth Vader. I'm not really for or against his inclusion, but I'll never be a gatekeeper against such an iconic character with a massive legacy that has done plenty of horrific things to warrant an inclusion in a game like DBD. If a character that is so ruthless they kill children isn't good enough to be considered horrifying enough to add in then maybe I just don't get the communities mindset.
I'm a person that looks at Killers like Trickster and Skull Merchant and cringes, but would see Darth Vader as fine as his legacy speaks for itself.. Does anyone actually think Darth Vader fits LESS than Lara Croft or Nic Cage..? As I said I'm not for or against his inclusion, but I won't be a gatekeeper as many seem to enjoy. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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Sure Darth Vader is an amazing character, but the biggest problem is that Vader and the whole Star Wars franchise isn't horror. So it doesn't make any sense and he's not a fit into the theme that DBD holds.
I've heard there is a star wars novel that is horror with the story going over a zombie plague like out break on a space ship. Vader had no part of that story and barely anyone knows of that novel so I highly doubt that would be enough to make a chapter for.
Also since Vader is so powerful what's to stop him from just instant killing the survivors or destroying the realms. He's likely strong enough to even destroy the Entity. The strongest killers currently in DBD either have limiters on them restricting their power or they wanted to be part of the trails. Vader certainly won't accept it.
And one more thing! Can't compare killers and survivors of who fits and who doesn't. Killers are suppose to be the faces of horror not the survivors.
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lmao Disney would NEVER let that happen unless bhvr forked over enough cash to bankrupt themselves 10x over so this is definitely not happened. XD lmao
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Just like Vecna has the Entities mark on the back of his neck, so too would Vader. Simple. I mean he was less powerful in games like Soul Calibur and Fortnite. Don't think it matters that much.
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Also any assumption that Disney wouldn't let them use Vader is ridiculous. Star Wars is no more important than the Alien franchise and DBD already has that.
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Force choke instant kill every survivor on spawn
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It doesn't even matter anymore at this point, as it's only a matter of time before BHVR starts bringing non-horror collab slop content into DBD similar to what other games such as COD, R6:S & Fortnite have done with their collabs. As evident by how BHVR have been deviating more and more from keeping their collabs as horror as possible over the years.
As far as Vader goes, Star Wars is arguably horror-adjacent at most from times and there are so many other characters from the franchise that are infinitely more fitting in a horror game than what Vader is, but of course knowing bhvr, they'd rather prioritize recognizibility over compatibility in order to maximize sales.
Regardless of what you or anyone else thinks about Trickster and Skull Merchant, they at least are both part of a horror subgenre each, which are the main focus for both of their characters, where as horror-adjacent content only have some horror elements to them that are not the main focus or non-horror content having none at all.
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I know of his appearance in Soul Calibur, but no nothing of the lore why he's there and I don't count fortnight for anything since its the biggest mess of characters of almost everything can think of even if they clearly don't belong there.
Vecna choose to enter the Entity realm to study it for his own gains, but had to agree on the Entity mark that restricts his power. Vader? There's no way the Entity will be able to lie, trick or force him if he doesn't want to. Only if there's a reason Vader wants to be part of the trials.
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I don't know why you'd point to Trickster as evidence here, he's always been an excellent fit tonally, he's one of the killers I think BHVR did the best job with when it comes to justifying his presence in the game.
A better example would be Vecna, someone who is not from a horror franchise who was adapted to fit the game anyway. He's good evidence that BHVR can do this, though I don't know how far they can take that the further away you get from horror.
As for Vader specifically… I think DBD has a strained relationship to sci fi stuff like that. Alien and the Singularity are in the game, but it's clear they're approaching sci fi from a very different angle to something like Star Wars. I'm not sure if it'd fit, personally.
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Vader could be tempted into the fog if the Entity took Obi-wan as a Survivor.
Personally though, I think Darth Sideous would be a much better choice for a DBD Killer. He's irredeemably evil and he loves it (plus, there's a chance maybe Ian McDairmid would do some voice lines). And we already have a regular evil wizard, so why not an evil space wizard, too?
In any case, I think BHVR could make a Star Wars chapter work for the game. I'd much rather see that than the upcoming FNAF chapter (which is only about as horror as a Goosebumps book anyway).
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As someone else mentioned, Darth Vader isn't really in the horror genre.
More than that though, he's kind of a complex character that wouldn't fit well as a killer. Anakin's fall was tragic, but in the end of the Skywalker Saga, his love for his wife and son helped him fulfill the prophecy and turn back from what he had become. That feels a little off for killer material.
Don't get me wrong, the concept of Darth Vader is horrifying, but his character is built in a way that has a lot more love and redemption than we see in our typical killers.
Also, I feel Darth Vader has a power level vastly beyond any other killer in the roster, and he might just overhrow the entity. It feels almost like adding Neo from The Matrix as a survivor; he'd just fly around and fight the killer.
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yeah vader can totally kill the entity…
what are you talking about
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I don't know a single person IRL that looked at Trickster and took it seriously, so that chapter went down in history for me as the biggest let down of DBD until Skull Merchant anyway.. Legion is more exciting tbh.
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More probable to BHVR add WWE and The Undertaker as a killer, than Disney with their SW license
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This.
The bright and colorful lights are only what is shown on the outside, but in reality there is so much more.
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Really? I thought All-Kill was one of the strongest concepts DBD's brought to the table in a long time, he's very well written imo.
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didn't Disney wish for this and BHVR said no?
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Same, i personally consider All-Kill to be a contender for being one of the top 5 best chapters overall.
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Pretty certain Original Trilogy content was denied by BHVR specifically on the grounds they didn't think it fits the game, and I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. Using Lich Kings like Vecna is one thing for a killer, I honestly don't think most people see Vader as anything near a horror villain, or even horror adjacent. He's certainly a beloved and intimidating killer, and I guess with Wesker and the like being added some would say the game has lost its identity, but I honestly have faith the devs will choose the collabs they want to include rather than prioritizing funds over theming.
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Star Wars is not horror or horror-inspired.
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That chapter is when I started playing the game alone… :/ Everybody left me playing DBD alone after Trickster was revealed.. It just came off as a stupid concept for many people I think. I'll agree the map had the most potential. Even I wanted an All-Kill map.
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Neither is Tomb Raider..eh? Lara Croft is here. Adding Lara Croft is similar to adding Indiana Jones.
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I'd rather they didn't include non-horror properties but honestly that ship has already sailed with Lara Croft, DnD, Naughty Bear, AOT, etc. so honestly idek anymore. I guess idc.
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