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Dead by Daylight is extremely outdated

RightsForPyramidHead
RightsForPyramidHead Member Posts: 5
edited January 22 in General Discussions

Compared to games that are released nowadays, dbd is a huge step back. There are barely any settings, there is no in-game recording, the graphics comes from PS2 era, a 20,000 pages book long worth of bugs which old or new bugs are also coming in with every patch they bring out, anti-cheat is severely lacking where cheaters could do some of the most ridiculous things like hacking items and speedhacking, noclip or hook animation spamming. The trash optimizations especially for consoles.

I haven't seen a game so unfriendly towards new players other than dbd. The grind is insane and I heard streamers suggesting new players to buy accounts but that doesn't come without risks. The new player experience is downright horrible. The servers are a downgrade compared to other multiplayer, live service games.

Then last and not least, some of the maps, killers, offerings, addons, perks and items are outdated too. Nothing feels like it belongs in 2024/2025.

Comments

  • Rulebreaker
    Rulebreaker Member Posts: 2,196

    1: somethings would be practically impossible such as in game recording (practically as they'd pretty much have to rebuild from the ground up and that would practically be DBD 2).

    2: some of the graphics are stylistic choices and some are because they didn't update them. You'd need to be specific on what your talking about rather than blankets.

    3: Don't think the devs have any control over easy anti cheat and how good or not it works.

    4: it's mostly unfriendly due to what you need to learn and how vicious the community can be. One of us has been "teaching" newer players and the worst that's happened is that they keep talking out their butts. Compared to when we started, this is much better.

    5: last but not least, the game is from 2016. This maybe us not getting what you mean by outdated but to us that just means old.

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,697

    And yet this game is still being played after all this time.

    And a lot of modern games - with all their features - are played and forgotten the moment you finished them.

    Of course i like DbD to improve and i don´t like a lot of the decisions made - but - i still prefer this old game over new ones.

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,697

    Right.

    But that is a very difficult thing to do.

    I don´t want the gameplay to change to much. Also you can see that the competitors with all their ideas don´t manage to succeed either.

    I want DbD to stay DbD but just overall a bit better → and also a bit more like old DbD.

  • kit_mason
    kit_mason Member Posts: 342

    Please go look at pictures of San Andreas before you start throwing "PS2 graphics" around, not after.

    Anyway, the rest of your post is super vague outside of bugfixing and anticheat which are both going to be things that happen perpetually.

    Sure, the game ain't marvel rivals. Give marvel rivals a year and it'll look like a game not released in the last year too.

  • Iron_Cutlass
    Iron_Cutlass Member Posts: 3,474

    To be fair, I never said it was an easy thing to fix either.

    It will be difficult for BHVR to bring something new to the game that actually feels impactful since they have to please two angry mobs, but at least attempting something is better than letting the ship sink.

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 1,678

    It really has one thing going for it, zero competition.

    Makes you wonder what deity did MCote convince to curse the horror asym genre aside from DbD.

  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 2,976

    I'm fine with a game having mediocre graphics if it means rock-solid performance.

    Sadly, I do not get rock-solid performance, ever.

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 6,142

    No one ever has. And then there's what our precious Switch cousins have had....

  • JonahofArk
    JonahofArk Member Posts: 64

    It's the bugs for me. They go untouched for months, years even.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 3,070

    Wait…..wait…..There didn't use to be an Endgame Collapse?

  • Senaxu
    Senaxu Member Posts: 326

    I've been playing the game since 2018 and have alot of recordings/footage from back then. The game actually looked better in many aspects back then.

    There was a switch to UE5. There is Easy Anti cheat. Both are things that are "present" in the game, but you don't notice that they exist, which is very sad.

    Easy Anti cheat can work if it is well designed and tailored to the game in question.

    Do you notice anything? If resources were invested to make it usable. BUT That won't happen.
    Just like there is still no server-side validation in that PvP game( I always have to smirk when I think about it)
    suble cheater in higher MMR are a real issue by now, no worries it will get so worse at some point that they are forced to take on the issue.

    As Pulsar rightly said, there is no competition. But what there is are millions of people happily investing their hard-earned $ into the game by the hundreds.

    It's definitely a nice life as a development studio with the personas these days xD

  • Senaxu
    Senaxu Member Posts: 326

    So now that that's out, and to be fair, what has actually improved since then?

    • The overall balance of the game
      Do you think killer is unfair and bad to play today? Oh boy. It was really bad back then with all the useless window loops and the time that it took longer for many more actions as a killer. This is really a huge improvement.
      Also there is a DC penalty, bots and EGC now.
    • New killer designs and sound design
      Many of the new killers (apart from a few that I don't need to name) are really well thought out and feel very interesting to play. The Unknown, The plague, demogorgon,.. And especially the chase music and sound design for the killers.
      Several steps forward have really been taken here.