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Legion and Bots are ruining 2v8
I thought the devs wanted to make the survivor experience better in 2v8? Because making the game a 2v6 and adding quite literally the most broken killer possible for this mode isn’t really doing that.
I imagine killer queues will be incredibly long in a few days. Absolutely NOBODY will want to queue for survivor after the “newness” of this mode wears off. Absolutely a trainwreck.
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Aw, come on! you are telling me you dont enjoy having to mend the entire match?🤭😅
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Legion broken!? it's literally an m1 killer if you just drop the pallet
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they go over it
what the point your making?
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Bots need to be removed 100%
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you just wait and drop pallet only after getting hit, it usually works in the worst case, it's a mind game and 50/50
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That results in a wasted pallet most the time friend, just saying.
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if destroy all legion pressure and turn off his ability for 20 seconds, it's "wasted pallet" for you, then just try to throw off the palette on reactions
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Legion being in 2v8 is repellent for the game mode. Im not playing.
They wanted less queue times and decided adding legion to 2v8 was going to have survivors queue up. Dont tell me that isnt a joke, right? Out of all the killers to add, they added the one killer almost all survivors dont like? Must be the punchline.
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I said "most of the time" i'm not saying there isnt that tiny percent chance to stun legion out of their power lol..
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I don't think Legion by themselves is the problem, but the combo they have with killers. Legion can injure many people with their power, making it a game of Mending. Afterwards survivors have 2 choices, waste time healing cus Legion can injure you without issue again or do gens while injured, making you very vulnerable against killers like Wraith, Nurse, Blight and killers with the 0 terro radius class. This leading to a gameplay of healing + mending or having 0 interacting with the killers because some have insane chase and others have stealth.
I really hoped that the devs were smart enough to know that Legion and Plague would be an issue for 2v8 due to their 'always injured' powers25 -
Adding bots to 2v8 is predictably one of the worst decisions they've made in recent memory. It didn't solve the problem it was meant to solve and it has made the game mode significantly worse. They're just as useless as people predicted they would be.
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I'm pretty surprised how little they did for survivors. Herbs? Green, healing doesn't even take that long in the game. Yellow, at the moment this just seems to be making survivors waste time searching for them. Once the spots are memorized I suspect they will be things the killers destroy right away.
And then the bots and legion make the mode actively less appealing.
From version 1 to 2 there were so many ideas that were implemented. Coming out of v2 there were a lot of ideas suggested and discuss. Many I didn't think would work, but it would have figured some of them would have been tried.
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This is 100 percent the main problem. Because you shouldn’t heal against legion that leaves you with staying a one shot that the other high mobility killers can capitalize off of easily.
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my games so far today: 20-min killer queue, get lobby, other killer leaves. Switch to survivor. I was last one alive besides bots. Killers spend 15 minutes slugging bots repeatedly until they get a situation where they can find and mori me. Two more survivor games where I face infinite mending. Switch to another 20-minute killer lobby. Game started and four survivors dc, leaving us with six bots.
Dbd is my favorite game…4 -
You nailed it. That’s exactly what many people don’t get or just don’t want to hear...
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Please just relabel the event 2v6 and problem solved. No really, that's what it is right now so call it what it is. You added a killer with the largest terror radius and the bots do nothing but hide. Great job BHVR, great job.
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From my experience, Bots actually prioritize their teammates over their own safety. You shouldn't care abt if they end up getting themselves killed, they do gens, they stealth very well too. Only problem is they sometimes waste herbs on themselves when they don't need them.
Regarding Legion, he is perfectly healthy. People seem to forget you don't want to feed him hits, I've noticed that with the considerably reduced mend time that people often mend immediately, giving another opportunity for chain hits. Not sure why people forgot this was a thing but the short mend time could be an incentive trick into feeding Legion. Just don't insta mend and wait, people should quickly learn that he plays just like his normal version.
Also, survivor at the moment and since the 2nd version of 2v8, has been the stronger role, even in solo queue. Gens still fly with bots on the team theres no excuse as to why survivors should be losing imo. Out of 10 survivor games today, i died once, majority of games being 6 outs or double hatch escapes since theres 3 hatches
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The herbs become very useful when everyone has stages to lose and injuries to heal. Someone will very likely find it, and make it respawn near teammates to lose their stages, COMPLETELY FOR FREE!!! Survivor is still obviously the better role in the 2nd and 3rd version of 2v8, the herbs make solo queue so much more bearable. If your teammates just do gens and don't 6 gen, you can win any game against any killer combo.
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Um, noooo. That is definitely not how Legion works.
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Who doesn't like legion? Hes one of the weakest killers in the game rn. Its your teammates who make them seem strong, because for some reason no one knows how to split up which is super obvious counterplay. Hes not even overtuned, its literally that no one knows how to counter his power, they just insta mend since mending isn't long in this gamemode. Then again, im yet to see a single legion I've played against get 9 hits consecutively, its actually hard to do and you need to activate power on one end of the map and travel to the other side over time, gettung chain hits on the way
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Reaction stunning is not worth the gamble. You just need to split up and w key if the legion is onto you
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All Mending actions currently takes 5 seconds to complete in 2v8, idk where ur getting "all game" from. It may seem like that is the case since everyone just insta mends and gets hit again by the legion. Thats just your solo queue teammates lacking a brain, and that is because 2v8 has no mmr. Its whole queue system is super flawed, having to pick an individual killer and find a lobby where that killer isn't taken already, then having to find 6 survivor players which for some reason takes long even though it takes 10 seconds to find a team of at least 6 instantly. It comes down to whoever was queuing first for a killer match, they will find opponents first, and the killer to survivor ratio is terrible rn cus survivor gets a bad wrap, even though its obviously the stronger role woth people who actually possess a brain
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This entire post seems like an anger rant from a single experience. Play with a few friends that understand basic counterplay, and you'll notice a difference in how many "9 hits" a legion can get in a single game.
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Legion is only annoying to face because the survivor playerbase is casual and doesn't understand how to play against them. I have people (not bots) non stop teabagging me to get healed only to instantly get hit by Legion again
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You can ask any survivor who their least favorites are and legion would be in their list. Frenzy has no counterplay at all. You can't pallet stun, loop, or locker dive to save you from getting hit and put to mending.
Your argument is splitting up, but how can you split up with 7 other people on a map that's not big enough to elude a 32m terror radius? Someones bound to start beeping if one person gets hit with frenzy.
Ive instamended because in the short while of getting put into the mend state, no one is doing gens at that time to avoid legion. Can't do gens if imma bleed out.
There are already two bots in every game that don't touch anything if they hear a terror radius. Everyone's constantly mending while being chased by the second killer, so its an instadown, comboing it with frenzy. All this time and no one is doin gens. Thats my point. Ive played about 15 games and only escaped once from exit gates and once from hatch.
Every legion was accompanied by a high mobility killer, so good luck with trying to get away. Im not ranting. This is my experience playing this iteration of 2v8.
Legion was not the play here. Bots are dumb. No one is doing gens if theyre mending all the time. Killer queues are still 15-20 mins for a lobby WITH BOTS. No. Im not queueing into this game mode.
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And with 'Favor The Killer' still being a thing, that assumes you even get the stun without getting struck.
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I was just in a 18 minute queue and we got two bots. The strat is leave the bot(s) alive and injure them, then watch where they go and you will find the other Survivors. They always run to someone to get healed lol It is awful, so I also won't be playing.
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the success depends on ping, and 2v8 has a lot of problems with ping, compared to the normal ¸1v4.
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I never said that was or wasn't the case, but based on my experience yesterday it is mostly the case. But also id like to add that i personally think Legion was a huge mistake for 2v8.
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Legion players should be made wait 40 minutes for a game
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Legion is a breath of fresh air to me compared to Wraith. I enjoy bullying Legion players
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I just played against a Legion. They frenzy hit a Meg bot, and I was about to pallet stun them out of the frenzy (or at least try), but the bot dropped the pallet and blocked me, and I got hit with frenzy. I had several other bots fail skill checks on gens or while healing me or someone else, prioritize opening chests and taking items that real players would appreciate to have, come to me while I'm on a gen, teabag me a few times and then just leave…
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toxic bots
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Legion main here.
It takes only 6 seconds to mend, and his first few hits aren't fast enough to catch split-up survivors.
If you have problems with Legion in 2v8, it's a personal problem.
To those of you complaining about his synergy with oneshot/carry killers: Yes, that's how the support role works. Doubly-so in a game where the duo is designed to be extremely powerful.
Complaining about Legion is 2018 behavior. My only two responses are to get with the times and get better at the game.
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80-90% of my games had a legion. Not even fun anymore because he/she is overplayed… probably overplayed for a reason. Bots are killing the games. Had so many now where the bot doesn't commit to something (like finishing a generator), and it cost the game.
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Thats what im saying, he really isn't overtuned in any way. Plus, everyone who plays him kinda sucks and doesn't understand you need to hit everyone to make him useful
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Thats what im saying, he really isn't overtuned in any way. Plus, everyone who plays him kinda sucks and doesn't understand you need to hit everyone to make him useful
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The counterplay is beings split up, he injures quickly, but can't down you unless he ends power and becomes a basic m1 killer. He seems stronger because of your teammates not splitting up
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The counterplay is beings split up, he injures quickly, but can't down you unless he ends power and becomes a basic m1 killer. He seems stronger because of your teammates not splitting up
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I know im done playing surv as long as legion stays in this game mode they added the one killer that they knew would make this game mode worse than it already was before now we can't do anything without getting either double teamed or mending and healing the whole ass match BHVR knew what they were doing when they added legion of all killers
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Lol found you in another post about the dislike for 2v8. Not everyone plays like you bro. We know you are a looping, gen rushing machine. Want a cookie? Though i am happy for you that your trying to advocate for this game mode.
I can tell you are def a killer main, trying to convince other people to play survivor, so you can go stabby stabby mend simulator as legion in 2v8. If youre a legion main, just say that.
You can't convince anyone this iteration of 2v8 is better. Killers got 3 whole new killer, and all survivors got are herbs placed in random ahh places that you have to waste time searching for. Where is the new content for survivor in 2v8? This is one of the points Im trying to get across. I hope you can comprehend that much.
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