Must be a different copy of DBD you obtain where survivors are slightly organized.

If you find this version of DbD, throw a copy my way please 🙏

I've had enough of the disaster that is solo queue these days.

The problem is we have a lot of "I can't believe this game is allowed to have long killer winstreaks", and it's like "yeah, that's because people wanted matchmaking to be less strict".

But for reals, BHVR could just easily fix the problem by bumping up the map rigging. If a killer has a way higher MMR than the survivors, then just super rig the map in the favor of the survivors. Like, if it's a Blight player, then fill the map with irregularly shaped line of sight breakers, and irregularly shaped loops, so the Blight player can't easily navigate the maps with his power. In general, the number of jungle gyms, and safe pallets can be boosted. And the generators can purposely spawn super far apart.

Agreed it's an MMR issue. MMR just doesn't work well at all in this game the way that they have it set. If you remember when MMR was strict, there was almost no winstreaking going from killers. I remember it well. Most killer streamers were getting absolutely dumpstered by organized SWF like every game over and over. It was incredibly bad for their viewership to be losing and getting 3 - 4 hooks every single game. You can revisit this time through the Suffering with MMR YouTube series.

I don't know that they really need to or should do that but it would possibly work. Id be curious to know how close matches actually are MMR wise. Id also like to know if it's kind of evenly mixed as far as the matches go. If more survivors get paired more often with less experienced killers, vice versa, or if it's just mixed across the board.

Tell me about it. I've been duo-queuing and the amounts of killing themselves on hook, dcing, and general giving up that I see cannot fool me that this game is entirely more killer sided.

I honestly feel like the gen spawns contribute to that. The amount of times I've loaded into a game and I've seen one side of the map have five gens and no matter of using Deja Vu can fix the problem.

It feels like Dead By Daylight just has so many issues that it becomes a habit for people to instead give up and DC as you can easily queue into another game just as fast (as long as you're not consistently doing it too much).

It feels like you're doing household chores when playing survivor a lot of the time.

soft MMR cap is so low and thus it's oversaturated. There are way too many players in that zone because it's so easy to reach and, because of that, we have a high matchmaking inaccuracy problem.

i mentioned Steam only due to it being the only reliable sample i can notice. But overall, matchmaking takes every other platform into sample too, meaning.

In terms of balance, this is another external factor that has nothing to do with actual balance in terms of buffing/nerfing/tweaking stuff. If you'd really want pub zone to be far better way to determine balance, we would have to raise soft MMR cap by significant margin in order to actually have much more filtered out playerbase. This way, you'd never have accurate balance views outside of comp zone of DbD, because it's the only place where people can actually reliably be put into similar skill levels.

Other than that, game would definitely need some sort of ranked mode in order for most accurate kind of matchmaking

ok. Show us your own killer gameplay so we can see how easy it is to win consistently. Since you claim the game is so unbalanced, you should have no shortage of footage to show how easily you can survivor teams.

Either you are playing against babies 24/7 or you are the best killer player in the world.

Former, just play more and enlighten yourself on the wonders of genrush and crutch-ego wannabe 'juicers'.

Latter, stream and do tourneys. If you actually are skilled enough to pull that off above the softcap, please bless everyone with your secret formula.

Yes, you need money to run a game...but what does that have to do with the overall experience a player can have in the game? I can see many games that do the same thing and aren't seemingly unfair or would feel like you would need to pay to receive some quicker advantage. Valorant is a perfect example...you die because you get outplayed or out-experiences, regardless of exceptions. It's an overall fair playing ground. Overwatch is another game that dabbles in micro transactions and does NOT affect how strong the player is and is an overall fair experience and win or losses depend on a players overall experience. Playing survivor is an overall oppressive experience that feels like the killer is way wayyy too strong...an experience that is met with even seasoned pros crapping the bed. I get the killer is supposed to be oppressive, but AGAIN...we've seen it time and again. ONE, the killers are CONSTANTLY getting buffed and the only thing survivors use the absolute most, their PERKS are constantly getting nerfed and downsized to confirm to high level killers that complain or otherwise. The killers perks and items have barely changed or have even been buffed while survivors perks go through so much flux and change...ruining creative builds and consistent kits that gave players learning the game or those that know the game well, a chance against the harder killers. That margin for creativity has drastically decreased and even the killers base kits have changed, making the prospects of winning feel even bleaker.

You really think I haven't played the game or know it's past...the way things were, I'd agree there was a time where survivors were pretty strong and the killers had a very hard time with experienced players, leaving many many killers in the dust...almost leaving them with a 0-1k most of the time. They started nerfing survivors, making maps more killer friendly and removing some survivor advantage over time, even adding more hooks and buffing the killers. BUT, they just kept doing that and keep doing it still. It's gotten severely out of hand at this point. Survivor has gone through like 2 or 3 different perk culls, nerfing many loved and used perks...even now. SPINE CHILL sucks, SMALL GAME isn't useful or practical anymore, PREMONITION isn't useful or practical anymore, SELF-CARE is basically useless and looked down upon if you do use it, SLIPPERY MEAT isn't used cause of how impractical it is compared to other perks, DECISIVE STRIKE is horrible now, DEAD HARD is so hard to use given the demanding time window for use it's basically ALMOST useless, BACKGROUND PLAYER....I mean come on. I could go on and on. I'm not basing my complaints off of baseless bull. It's real, and people still talk about survivor problems TO THIS DAY. I'm far from the only one

It seems more the case that a lot of survivors just have main character syndrome so badly that they're ignoring the format of the game and just giving up when they realize they won't be able to absolutely stomp.

I hit a generator with driver's license yesterday and three people pulled the plug, I hadn't hooked or even stabbed a single person yet.

Check it out:

Oh hell no

Of all the things BHVR has done, taking OG Dead Hard out behind the barn and putting it down may be the best

And 1 person was able to do that, through sheer luck. Wow, that proves so much.

That is pretty wild, but I still say my match takes the cake. I went up against a Ghostie and all three of my teammates decided to DC, and I cannot fathom why. By the time the third one DC'd, we had three gens done, and the Killer had no hooks. He finally got his first hook (on me, of course) after all the DC's...

Killers want to pretend it doesn't happen much. The people that controls BHVR doesn't want a fair game.

The same so skilled players would never win more than two or three matches in any actually fair and balanced game.

win streaks by the top killer players in the world prove nothing about game balance for the vast majority of the player base. Let’s think this through here: top killer player in the world is going to be playing against far inferior opponents most of the time because there isn’t going to be a constant stream of comp SWF teams lined up to play against them. So as top killer is going through his win streak, most of his matches are going to be like a 99% chance to win because of the huge gap in player skill between killer side and survivor side. He’s only going to encounter full teams of similarly skilled players every so often, and even in these matches he will have an advantage because the devs have already stated many times that the game is slightly killer sided by design.

None of this means anything for a vast majority of players. If you are winning too much as killer, you will progressively get matched against better and better survivor teams. I’ve experienced this myself by playing killer - it’s easy at the start and then you hit a wall where it becomes difficult to win consistently.

look at the overall win rate for killers for the entire game population. That’s what really matters for telling us something about game balance. I’m sure I’ve said this to you before, but if you are so convinced that the game is overwhelmingly killer sided, try actually playing killer yourself. Not just a few matches, but actually put some hours into it. You’ll eventually see that it’s not nearly as easy as you think it is.

You're right I play both sides too and killer is extremely easy, I can 3-4K on auto pilot. For comparison, to be as good at survivor as I am with 3K hours in solo Q, I only need max 200 hours to reach that success level playing killer. In others words, killer is easy mode in the game, far easier even than SWF. The killers that think it is survivor sided are profoundly delusional.