Opinions on the new Go-Next Prevention system?

Well, they say that you "intentionally" die even when you are doing your very best and just miss a skill check. It's really messed up in my opinion. Basically, the game says that if you ever make a mistake that you just died on purpose. It's really punishes less skilled players in a really unfair way.

Oh, right, and then it locks you out of matches, but doesn't even tell you unless you try to join. Wow, this is really messed up.

You no longer die from missing two in a row. That's true. But, if you miss any, it says that you are doing it on purpose. Those wheels do keep spinning after you push the button. They can be hard to time.

I can kind of understand some things, like only giving credit for partial gen repair and not, say, tapping a totem (which could be used for avoiding crows like locker hopping).

But wow, the system seems to be really tuned to assume that "you're just afk, and until you do one of exactly 4 things you're going to be punished" is pretty extreme.

The not letting go on hook changes seem fine for the most part, but we're kind of back to "Doctor spamming m2 to prevent you from doing anything" would force the system to flag you as AFK with penalties, and that's pretty messed up.

Pretty sure the crow system isn't to counter AFK survivors but count survivors who are intentionally hiding for a prolonged period of time to waste as much time as possible.

I.E. a somewhat common (but not super common, it something I only saw a few times a month) scenario is you kill 2 survivors, and the final two survivors ignore gens and hide. Crouch-walking around the map, hiding in a corner spamming emotes, picking up and dropping items (which prevented AFK crows in the old system) etc. and just waiting until the killer eventually gives up looking for them and disconnects, or the server shuts down.

This is a problem but I thought the abandon button already solved it. If survivors are hiding and not touching gens, you can just abandon and find a new match while keeping bloodpoints and no DC penalty.

About the Go Next prevention I think how it really works is it's just some timer and if you die before the timer is up (it's likely not a long timer) the game declares you were throwing the match. It likely doesn't detect behavior and only goes by survival time. While it does solve people who throw/let the killer kill them, it can apparently trigger a false positive on scenarios like a killer finding you extremely quick and hard tunneling you out of the game as fast as possible, etc.

EDIT: I imagine tombstone piece Myers can give people the go next penalties easily.

I hate that I can't let myself die on second hook to let the hatch spawn for the last Survivor. They're not gonna come save me and if they do, I don't want them to. We are never getting that last gen done and I just want to be in my next game already. I didn't bother hitting any of the skill checks in a Ghost Face match I played because what's the point if it's just for BP anyway? Am I going to get flagged for trying to "go next" for that?

It's kinda funny to spam the unhook animation and watch nothing happen, though. But to be totally honest, this might be the patch that makes me quit Survivor for good. I just know I'm not going to be able to play through 20 Survivor matches without getting frustrated enough to want out of a match. So I'm done with the role outside of doing the odd quest or daily.

Should have just made early game hook suicides impossible instead of this whole contrived system.

If it's designed to target excessive hiding at 2 survivors, it's definitely targeting people at every stage of the game. People are getting crows for being interrupted by cleansing thrill (by screaming, which is outside their control) which is absurd.

And just in general, with both the afk and go next systems, there seem to be instances where the killer can force these scenarios to occur. I'm unsure about tombstone, but hard tunneling someone out, for example, does punish the survivor, even if they're playing and trying.

If there's one thing about DbD we should know by now it's that if you give either side the ability to abuse mechanics like this, they will do so. The fact that this isn't accounted for already, especially after ptb feedback, isn't a good sign.

I think it's a bit unfair to players to assume the worst, where the default position is that "you aren't trying" until you successfully complete one of maybe 4 specific actions, and every 30 seconds or so.

Same goes for the afk system. Completely went nuts with it instead of simply fixing 2v1 scenario where the survivors just stall.

It needs to be removed and sent back to the kitchen to cook. They put very little effort into making a prevention system and it shows.

It's called fixing what isn't broken, and it's a terrible idea generally.

People going next at the slightest inconvenience (hell, even if we were doing really well… two gens left, everyone still alive, and it's their first hook) absolutely drove me up the walls, but this is not the way. There are at least occasionally times when I think it's justified to go next. Teammate/s teamed with the Killer (a problem that has increased exponentially in the past 3-4 months), and they're leaving you to die? Fine, make your attempts, whiff your two Struggle Checks, get out. Less than four minutes in and you're getting steamrolled so hard (because we know how wonderful MMR is at matching you with teammates and Killers of fair skill levels, rather than prioritizing queue times over everything else) that there is absolutely no hope of winning, someone is already dead, one person is hanging on their second hook, another is dead on hook and hiding, there are five gens left and you get thrown on your first hook to see Plaything Fool's Folly pop up?

Sorry, you just have to hang there and stick around for the inevitable, drawn-out loss.

You get put on hook, the only other Survivor remaining is injured, and there are two gens left? The only hope of anyone escaping is for Hatch to spawn as quickly as possible? Sorry, you can no longer whiff 2 Struggle Checks and instantly die. The Killer has plenty of time to find them. Had this one happen half a dozen times in the PTB and brought it up then, am equal parts disappointed and unsurprised to see that they kept, "You can't whiff 2 Struggle Checks and instantly die, even to give the last person Hatch".

Sure, people do things. People do things you don't like sometimes. But, you're never going to force people to do what you want them to do all the time. People are independent and creative and have agency. They do things. The best you can do is drive people away, which is what the game is literally doing right now.