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You Can Still Just W Key Away (Ambush)

Why is it so difficult for the devs to really give pig the edge with her power? (Ambush)

Its not fast enough, it doesnt last long enough/you dont cover enough distance, it has an extremely long telling/giveaway animation (crouch then roar)


Its the same problems the power has had forever.

You crouch or the survivor sees you crouched at a loop = run away
= you win

You want the power only to fake? Or do you want people to actually use the power? It needs a significant buff not these small .2 seconds and .2m/s ideas.

Im comfortable saying it needs 2 seconds added to the power AT LEAST
Workshop grease should just be its basekit charge speed. Without grease you just dont hit with this power. Its way too slow.

Why is there a downside to such a minimal upside with last will? I feel like last will should be way more powerful given its downside.

Ambush is still way too weak to justify using it outside of situations youd just hit the survivor normally with an m1. You use it primarily to STILL just fake using it, to get the survivor to run away into the open.

Essentially this seems like some sort of cartoon, where the pig roars like a bafoon, and then the survivor just goes "cya"

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  • Rogue11
    Rogue11 Member Posts: 1,959

    she has more basekit slowdown than any other killer. she shouldn't have uncounterable basekit anti-loop too. ambush was already decent in the hands of a good pig player.

  • ChuckingWong
    ChuckingWong Member Posts: 1,263
    edited July 8

    I mean this comment sort of highlights what im talking about.


    First off stop it, it wouldnt be "uncounterable" it would just solve the problem the power having a counterplay of
    "Gee golly willickers scoob, lets run away I heard a roar"


    Second: Her slowdown is only powerful if she can →

    Down someone.


    Which if you are any decent at this game. Ambush sure is not going to accomplish that, so you are relying so heavily on stealth and m1ing that you are wondering why the power even exists in the first place. (my whole thing on faking)

    And that is WITH addons. Ambush is completely useless without grease or last will.

    If you dont have grease or last will, you're not hitting ambush. Unless the survivors are brand new to the game/dont know what pigs roar/crouching means.



    Other killers that have stealth and m1?
    They have expose, they have traversal, they have tools to help them seal off vaults. Pig does not.


    The power still has the same issues as far as the PTB is concerned. Nothing changed, same counterplay.



    hear roar see crouch at loop = run away = horray pig nice m2 there buddy, missed me by about 20 feet.

  • Rogue11
    Rogue11 Member Posts: 1,959
    edited July 9

    Maps are barren tiny deadzones now. If you can't get a down as a M1 killer and can't be bothered to learn to use her still-useful ambush, idk what to tell you. Survivors should have agency in chase too.

    Post edited by BoxGhost on
  • LockerLurk
    LockerLurk Member Posts: 1,683
    edited July 9

    Every single Killer that isn't the top 5 is hit by W Keying.

    Just let them W Key until they get hardstuck with Nurse, Blight, Kaneki, Wesker, and Billy every round. If they want to play that way, they deserve to be facing Killers that can handle it.

    As for Pig, with these changes? She's a genuinely solid low tier pick. She's fine. Let her be OK in her niche, with average players and average teams. If Myers and Ghostface and Doctor and Legion and Hag and Clown aren't a problem, then she surely isn't that offensive…

  • ChuckingWong
    ChuckingWong Member Posts: 1,263
    edited July 9

    This isnt true at all though.

    Top 5 that arent hit by w key?

    Range killers arent. And they arent top 5
    •Huntress
    •Death slinger
    •Trikster
    •Artist

    Executioner is not
    Clown you cant
    Chucky you cant, and his dash actually has the speed and distance


    What are you talking about when you say?

    Every single Killer that isn't the top 5 is hit by W Keying.

    I am very confused what you mean as the thing that happens to pig is really just her that it happens to. There is no interaction that is comparable.