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Tweaking > Delaying (Recent PTB Changes)
Would it be better if they instead of Delaying the Anti-Tunnel and Anti-Slug They instead tweaked it and Republished?
it is a PTB after all they could just release different versions with different stats maybe even different mechanics and Let killers and survivors test it to see which version should go public but it's just an Idea though not really sure how that would work out so I want to hear you guy's ideas or thoughts! :D
See you in the fog!
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They're likely doing both. Devs only have like a week to decide changes between PTB and live release and considering the complexity of these systems its very risky to only iterate on it once.
Ideally they could keep the the PTB and update it quickly instead of waiting for the next one but i suppose the problem is the release of the new chapter as well as killer updates they need to finish up for release as well.6 -
its a matter of the time it takes as we currently dont know when they’ll bring it back I meant as in like showing the changes as they tweak them
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BHVR doesn't seem to think the issue is just a matter of, as an example, whether the gen speed buff should be 25% or 20% though. If it was that I think they'd just make the tweaks they thought were needed. The fact that they held it for a second go makes me think there will be some larger changes.
they could just release different versions with different stats maybe even different mechanicsI don't know to what degree this would work out. You'd get lots of crosstalk in the discussions.
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If it's anything like the anti slug thing they did and then delayed.. forever.. I don't think we'll see anti tunnel at any point in the future. And seeing how quiet the community managers are is very telling..
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True, because they like to spoonfed killers than survs, typical move by them, it's simple logic killers makes content and livestreams - they should be handholded, great example they beloved otz/hens, but surv mains like jrm/ayrun their opinions are not counted since they are not killer players
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I am imagining next PTB. I can understand them needing more than a week but i couldn't understand them needing more a month
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Maybe just my opinion but seeing how this topic is discussed and how heated the discussions are they probably thing its best to reavaluate and try to hit the sweet spot with these changes instead of pushing it out and then majorly tweaking it afterwards.
Probably every time they change something about that system they would create a new shitstorm. Nerf the numbers: BHV is killer sided, only gave us the new system to now nerf it to the ground, sm treatment etc. Buff the numbers: BHV is survivor sided, everything except nurse is now unplayable, will never play killer again...
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wish it was easier to make changes without some part of the community making it the end of the world but obviously its never that simple 😞
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Honestly If they made the changes not so darn playstyle controlling and abuse able these would be fine.
All they need to remove is the penalties and the arua reading/killer instinct stuff and fix Gen Speeds. If they fix these issues then these could work. If they ma
They put this all together and thought this was fine and pushed this to ptb anyways even with the warnings that they completely avoided even when the warnings were right.
Plus if they do not have these changes come back I wouldn't be surprised or mad because they where baaaaaad not just for killer but for the game it self
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The Anti-Tunnel is just too complicated.
All you need is a base kit babysitter with a timer that gradually decreases based on the overall repair progress of the 7 generators.
Nothing else is needed.1 -
There was probably too much that needed to be changed to tweak it in the short window between PTB to Live.
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I would rather the devs not throw out a half baked system. The system on the PTB was heavily flawed and would need more than just simple number adjustments.
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Considering the recent backlash, BHVR may want to test tweaks in a PTB instead of pushing a controversial and game changing patch to live and see how it goes.
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Yep I think your last line is what ended up happening here.
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The problem was these proposed changes were a complete upheaval of the game formula. The changes were about as subtle as an atom bomb, and impacted so many areas of the game, not just slugging and tunneling... it wasn't really something in "tweak" territory.
I genuinely wonder if these changes were ever intended to hit live, they were walked back so fast and not even a attempt to salvage any of it that it almost looks like a "dump every anti-tunnel and anti-slug mechanic we're considering all at once and see what people get the most mad about" experiment.
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Thats one thing I was wondering. You'd THINK if they put something on the PTB, it would be under the idea thats its probably balanced enough to make it to live. Obviously they can discover they were wrong afterwards and make adjustments but this just seemed obvious it wasn't in a good spot. Why present it just to pull it when ppl said the obvious? Between this and the beam Im REALLY wondering how much playtesting gets done in house before it gets presented.
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Well Gen Speeds won't be fixed by just showing where Survivors are or what Gens there on.
If ur playing Killers like Trapper these bonus things will not do much for him and by the time he gets to Gen they could of possibly already Finished it.
Also it was also discovered in the PTB that most Killers Like The Onryo (The Ring Girl) that there entire kit was designed to kill survivors without hooking anyone to make her playable because that's what her kit is ment to do.
It was shown that it can be hard to keep track on who you been hooking because ur under pressure the entire game and its seen thst if the killer makes one error on hooking the wrong survivor rather from the survivors playing the same survivor or lost track of who you hooked. Swfs have been seen taking advantage of the Changes by following the killer with 30 sec arua reading from unhooked and annoying the killer all game long.
Note that this was warned by multiple Players not just Killer mains warned about these things
If the devs actually thought of this stuff then this could of worked as a good QOL. But I rather the devs redo everything and come address other issues with the game that needs fixing before the Anti stuff happens if anyone agrees
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They wouldn’t have time to do that all right now. Especially adjusting or making new mechanics. Takes time
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The changes weren't well thought out enough for a game with more than 40 killers. It's not enough to just change a few numbers here and there; it's absolutely essential to go back to the drawing board. Releasing an update where only 4 killers would be playable was a much worse decision.
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The irony is one of the killers that slipped through the cracks on this was Myers, the killer they reworked on this PTB. The new system tracks the last survivor hooked. If you use Myer's new Tier 3 kill effect on someone, the game doesnt move the marker to reflect THAT survivor.
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Yea, you didn't hook them. You dirty tunneler. Take your punishment and LIKE IT.
(Disclaimer because tone does not translate to text: This reply is sarcasm to the entire system. I actually agree with LordGint.)-1 -
I didnt even think of this until I was watching a video of someone playing with his new various addons. The guy kept trying to kill each survivor with that effect, which should be pretty common considering the achievement.
You can see it kicking in on the very first match.
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