Anyone else think that ghoul is terrible to play as rn?
Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting the ghoul to get buffed in a way, well, maybe (i cannot stretch this maybe as far as i already did btw) a small one for its token loss on pallet break but thats technically all there is, but rather a collision fix around loops and corners similar to weskers issues where sometimes he just slides right off corners but other times he doesn't (which tends to be most of the time) and I'd largely like people to share some opinions to make this killer better and more balanced and fun for both sides
I just finished a match with ghoul and it felt terrible bc loops very bad for ghouls power with corners but with the harsh token loose on pallet break, it makes that even worse, while I do understand why this was placed to prevent immediate rushing to Survivors, I feel like it should be less harsh is all, but I also believe that ghoul is a solid A or B tier killers but with how... weird the collisions are with leaping from corners or walls make this killer very bad around loops and feel like some of those hit boxes should be adjusted alongside the token loss on pallet break to be less punishing but not too unpunishing if you what I mean, while I am not the best at coming up with ideas for this character bc of its odd power from its original series without it breaking or being too strong, I think something should be in place that makes loops a bit easier to get around with ghouls power in some way, although, ig the same could be said for weskers power as well since it suffers way more with loops but that's just me, so if anyone has any ideas to make this killer feel better to place as and against, please share 🙏
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Again, downvoting while not sharing your thoughts doesn't help, and besides this is mainly for hitboxes when using leaps around loops and corners to be fixed so idk why this would be getting downvoted when that's technically all it is but whatever floats ya boat ig
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I find this suggestion rather normal.
Weird colisions are annoying to pretty much any killer that has a dash/projectile, so fixing them would be very good.
Aren't we supposed to be in a QOL update anyways?
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leaping from corners or walls make this killer very bad around loops
Well, he should be bad at loops anyway… Kinda the point of free injury
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The token lose is a fair trade off since he has an insane mobility that also has a rather short cooldown and can put survivors in Deep Wound for free. Without the token lose, survivors would be in a lose-lose situation since they cannot reach a new loop - against Ghoul you loop and cannot hold W like you would do against other killers. There is also the inconsistency that you don't lose token when your power is on cooldown, which is a bit weird. Loosing two tokens is also just an 8 seconds cooldown on a 4.6 killer.
Some maps like Nostromo have bad colision and this should be fixed since it also affects other killers and is just annoying to face. So, the issue is rather a map problem than a killer problem. It is also difficult to judge when we have no video. If possible, can you record these moments to better see what happened?
The devs already said that Ghoul will get some big changes and maybe this also includes his sliding too(?).
Many people - myself included - just dislike Ghoul because the gameplay against him is just boring and miserable due to the free Deep Wound and other cheep things he can do to get easy advantages/pressure. However, some people take it even further and any Ghoul topic they see that is not a hate/nerf post, is just asking for trouble even when it's a fair question/suggestion. Just try to ignore it, I highly doubt a discussion with these people is healthy.
I guess the devs don't know that the QoL update is supposed to happen now (source: recent patch).
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I agree and Fair tbh, I've come to realize that, and with your last point, that happens with any killer they genuinely hate, which is unfortunate bc the whole purpose of these forms is to give feedback to make both sides balanced and fun and fair, which, it feels like some people don't like for some reason, so I try not to engage with much a-s tier killers much unless there is a good reason for it
And yes I'll make sure to record when moments like the ones I'm referring to comes up, next time it happens I'll post the clip in a comment if possible but most likely in a post edit
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