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Nerf Dracula please and thanks

imabakedpot8o
imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
edited January 22 in Feedback and Suggestions

too strong, boring, cant see wolf over any tiles(meanwhile they can see 3rd person and see everything AND orbs to further increase their chances of mindlessly outplaying you), can outplay you at any pallet since his power goes through holes and over every single tile. you can never out play them because every time you do they just go bat mode and are back on your back instantly with no repercussions, even though they played abysmally in chase and lost you.

it's just unfair how they have so many chances to recorrect their mistakes meanwhile survivors have 2 health states, like its not that hard to spam everything you have and injure someone twice,, and makes versing him miserable and unfun. it's literally just win 50/ win 50 /win 50 and that is absolutely painstakingly boring to play, not to mention I played chaos shuffle yesterday and got him like 5 times in a row after dcing on my 3rd because I was over versing him, only to load up 30 mins later and get him again. like eat ######### get him out of my lobbies im sick of him.

he has too much and it's unnecessary

bat mode should be on a 7 second timer or something, wolf idek im just sick of not being able to see it over every single tile. speed orbs ? remove them. being able to not be seen over every tile is good enough as it is. you dont need haste on top of that.

also off topic kind of but ever since I switched gaming devices ive lost my castlevania dlc (not that I care because I absolutely despise everything about the chapter) its more just I paid for it and now they aren't on my account so like what is up with that?

it's boring versing killers who have 3+ powers in 1, its the same with vecna, although vena is more bearable since I can actually see him and his "fly" isnt allowed to be constantly in use the same way bats is.

also on the topic of vecna, remove his low skulls add on as it removes all opportunities for skill expression and is a free down/injure at any slight incline. and just doesn't work with dbds mechanics. sorry not sorry, remove it im literally begging, if you want people to actually enjoy versing these killers you gotta do something man. its not fun being outplayed by someone who is clearly worse than you simply because they're playing a killer who can spam everything that they have on the off chance that something will land. not to mention dracs wolf power puts wesker to shame, what do you mean he has an entire other killers power in his kit along with 2 other modes? crazy to me. please

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  • Yea they gotta nerf dracula. This killer is too strong imo. The only real counterplay depends on the dracula misplaying. He has to miss. Because he has a tool for almost everything and if he plays perfectly you literally cant do anything besides lithe away for a bit only to get bat form anyway.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,317

    The only real counterplay depends on the dracula misplaying. He has to miss.

    How is that exactly different to majority of killers with skill shots?

    Nurse, PH, Huntress, Dracula, Deathslinger etc. basically any killer with ranged power. What survivors can do is to make them more likely to miss.
    I personally enjoy playing against Dracula a lot exactly because he can missplay all of his powers.

  • Nurse and pyramid head are also uncounterable if played perfectly but specifically pyramid head is weaker in other aspects (no mobility, can be punished greatly for missing, can only use the ranged attack as a chase power meaning no wolf form and compeletely m1 without it).

    Deathslinger and huntress suffer against LOS breakers. they literally cannot hit you through objects whereas dracula could. Deathslinger also has a range limit and pallets can still stop him from actually connecting the hit.

  • Royval
    Royval Member Posts: 1,273

    I’ve said this before and nobody agreed with me he is extremely boring at face. I hate getting hit by the fire hell fire or whatever it is. There’s zero playmaking vs him.

  • ShanoaLegendaryPlz
    ShanoaLegendaryPlz Member Posts: 1,719
    edited January 22

    I have him at p100 and play him often. The key to looping him well, is the fact that he has a weakness in each form. When he switches forms, you switch your tactics. If he swaps to batform, he cannot see you at all. So if you walk you can walk right past him, if hes chasing you injured and goes to batform, you can double back walking and he will get confused following the scratchmarks enough for you to reach something.

    If hes in wolf form, he sucks around pallets/windows/multi corner tiles. Like blight or wesker you make sure he cant hit you in a straight line. If u are hiding from the wolf just walk as he cant see scent orbs if you dont run.

    And the hellfire is one of the easiest to bait midrange m2s in the game with a long cooldown compared to other killers like nemisis or pyramid head.

    Ive had rounds where people go down easily and its a quick win, but ive also had rounds where people loop me so hard i got 1 down in 4 generators and then still lost him to a blind lol. Hes not S tier like the big 3, just below them.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182

    I think its because they're limited by obstruction mainly, hellfire goes through everything shorter than a survivor or with gaps, on top of not being able to see the wolf form, on top of the permanent catch up ability with bats.. just pretty frustrating to play against tbh

  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 3,793
    edited January 22

    To add on to what was said by Shanoa. If the dracula isn't on point he can lose his grasp on the game really quickly. He has no real way to get pressure other than getting downs and getting hooks. He can't really hit and run because healthy survivors are almost undetectable in bat form.

    He is strong but i don't think he is overpowered. I think his most recent tweaks put him in a pretty great spot.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182

    I appreciate your tips but I think his overall kit is just too much to deal with, like they need to limit his time in bat form or something because with a good headset the only way to counter his bats is to run iron will, and even then you can hear footsteps and he just shifts right on top of you and you die and even if you do make it to a pallet, he can just shoot his power over, and low and behold it hits because he can see me over it, or he switches and I cant see him because his dog is too short… idk like I say I just find him frustrating to verse because a lot of the counter play feels out of my control

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
    edited January 22

    which goes back to what someone else stated where it feels like to win you have to pray the killer misses or isnt good, which honestly yeah, I think is kinda unfair…

    he has a lot more ways to get pressure than any other killers, he can teleport across the map and see a lot of the map in bat mode, has a counter to pretty much every survivor defence(pallets/vaults/exhaustion perks), hes the tallest killer in the game and can see over everything most other killers cant, ya know, I definitely do feel he is over powered in a bunch of ways. hence why I find him so frustrating to verse, and my feedback being based on chaos shuffle making me verse him multiple times in a row for some reason… just makes certain things stand out when you play against him multiple times in a row I think

  • OrangeBear
    OrangeBear Member Posts: 3,793

    I don't think that is really true. You can delay opportunities for dracula to hit you which is what the goal is against this killer. Don't vault or pre-drop if he has hellfire out, pre-drop if he is about to pounce in wolf form. Stay at a vault if he's in bat form. He will eventually get you but thats how he is balanced, and it's how he is different from many other killers.

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 3,325

    he's one of the more fair and interactive killers. I don't care if he's 13.7x more powerful than Trapper and Wraith, I'd rather face the Drac than snoozers like those. Dodging his abilities feel somewhat meaningful, and even bats has the opportunity to outmaneuver.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
    edited January 23

    no because ive did exactly what you said and you know what happened? I got grabbed when I tried to vault because its either he fakes I dont vault I die, or he lets go, I try to vault but the transition from holding power to swinging is so short you just get grabbed. an I do pre drop sometimes (BUT I CANT SEE THE DOG SO what does it matter !!!! you guys aren't hearing me I give up omg keep ur sloppy vampire dog mess idc

    in fact no edit: I will not let you guys gaslight me into thinking Dracula is not op he is, and there's no doubt about it.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,317
    edited January 23

    If you don't know how to handle the killer, best way is to go and play the killer. Sooner or later you will find survivor who will know what to do and then you just copy it in your games.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
    edited January 23

    only on the dbd forums will someone see someone say that they've played a character….. then go tell them to play the character, because they dont agree with what they said. girl Ive played since 2020, Ive bought the dlc, I know how to play the game. this killer needs nerfed, but y'all dont wanna hear that so lets end this as we seem to be going in a perpetual loop.

    I know these tactics. you guys dont agree with someone so you discretely call them trash by telling them to learn the killer or play more…. yeahhhh, no.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182

    absolutely not fair being able to be outplayed no matter where you stand. boring. next.

  • lord_of_dogs
    lord_of_dogs Unconfirmed, Member Posts: 66

    Just learn his counterplay, quit complaining. People like you, the crybaby survivor only mains, are responsible for all the bad things like SM butchering, chucky butchering, that Krause ptb, and SO MUCH MORE, all because you refuse to actually try. DEVS PLEASE DONT LISTEN TO THEM, DRACULA IS PERFECTLY BALANCED!!!!

  • xAnonymous
    xAnonymous Member Posts: 33

    Dracula has a solid counterplay already attached to him.

    Wolf form is absolute trash on most tiles. His lunge is really choppy and easy to outplay.

    In bat form he's absolutely blind and most survivors can just change direction and be slightly unpredictable, which is the easiest counterplay you can ever think of.

    In Vampire form he's strongest, of course, BUT evading his hellfire is RIDICULOUSLY easy if you put any effort into it.

    The only thing that puts him in A tier is hypermobility; believe it or not, against really good survivors he's not that good in chase simply because most tiles are safe as hell.

    I just played against a really good 4-man SWF with my Dracula, and they had enough skill floor to delay my downs by around ~20 seconds. Believe it or not, they were really amazing at looping — they made very smart gameplay-wise plays and decided to take hits, etc.

    I easily would have gotten a 3K, but it was Autohaven, so yeah, they were pre-running the hell out and ratting in lockers when they all got to 2nd stage. I was doing 12 hook play but they were ratting so yeah i'm still proud of myself yet not suprised.

    This map is EXTREMELY huge, and it was a really crazy time waste for me to navigate between survivors; controlling hook stages was borderline impossible. They were coordinated like a SWAT team.

    Luckily I got a 2K, but I am VERY surprised how much they did to make my downs significantly harder. They all had Champion of Light + Background Player, and I had to be extremely careful with my pickups.

    And no, they did not get a single flashlight save ;)

    But I have to admit that one Ace was VERY good when it came to flashlight saves, and he was close to getting one at endgame, but I'm way too experienced for those beamer plays and I predicted that a long time ago.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,317

    no because ive did exactly what you said and you know what happened?

    Oh, you have played 1-3 games and suddenly think you are master of the killer? Cute

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
    edited January 25

    can you not read? I said I versed that killer 5 times in 1 day what are you even talking about? and this is exactly the sarky comments im talking about where you pretend to be all meaningful and helpful by telling people to "play the killer more" when the reality is you're just being a dick….. I hate snakes either be real and honest or dont say anything at all. you want to call me trash? do it. dont beat around the bush.

  • imabakedpot8o
    imabakedpot8o Member Posts: 182
    edited January 25

    and look ! I was complaining about his hyper mobility and never being able to have a chance to catch a breath because he is ALWAYS on your back no matter what you do. awful design which rewards bad plays! I dont want to hear about your games with really good 4 mans. gloat harder omg. congrats ?? is that what you want me to say? uwu you're so talented and amazing, like such an inspiration omgggg ??

    youre also further proving my point by telling me you NEED to be in a super coordinated 4 man to have a chance at winning against this killer so thanks for that I suppose.

  • xAnonymous
    xAnonymous Member Posts: 33

    He indeed is a hyper-mobility killer but his chase potential is cut only to the user skill.

    Fully read what i said before you start crying.

    You either fully read and think about what i said or just shut up and go back to fortnite jeez.

    Trust me.. The Lich is FAR better than Dracula.

    Dracula's only strenght is hyper mobility, but he is not the craziest chase killer. He needs to attack in straight line xD

    Which is easy to dodge as hell.