Killer sided or Survivor sided?

Nurse-sided.

by design yeah but if ive learnt anything in my 20 years of life is that "design" barely comes to fruition sadly… (in pvp/asym game design)

Survivors get to bring 16 perks into the trial so they're necessarily not as strong in many cases.

The game is matchmaking sided. 😜

It's designed to be killer sided. And i think the fact that everyone agrees that levelling the playing field requires 4 people on comms (which aren't even a part of the base game) with coordinating perks, in order to beat out 1 person playing alone (and even then, it's not a guarantee), shows that killer is successfully the stronger role as designed.

Ghoul sided

4Men SWF = A tier KILLERS, at the same time S tier killers are slightly stronger than 4Men SWF(we will ignore the likes of trapper and such killers which are not really commonly used, i see blight/ghouls way too often nowdays so i wont compare the low tier killers to 4MEN SWF since 4MEN SWF are a fraction of the playerbase and the low tier killers can do well against non 4men comp ready team).

and as you know most survivors are casuals and not a comp ready team which means all killers are viable and good for public matches, so with that saying the game is currently heavily killer sided, the fact that bad player in a survivor team can screw up and entire game is wild, game have terrible dsync issues and map rng as well.

100% Correct, the game itself is not designed to be fair, a fair game is balanced around 50%, basically if a killer have 75% killrate it means the killer could possibly 3k every single game which is a win for a killer, since bhvr aim to give killers 60% kill rate condition as a main goal, then the game is far from balance, in fact those killers that are winning against much better players than themselves is due to this restriction on survivors, is that simple, hard to accept but its reality.

also if u check league of legends for an example, the highest currently at all rank winrate on a champ is 53% and the worst is 45%, and the power difference is huge between less than 10%.

Exactly this. Honestly, boiling it down to SWF is even misleading because it requires a group that's more than just a couple of friends horsing around. And realistically, anyone that cracked should be difficult to go against.

is normal comparison actually, either u like it or not, thats reality, we talking about power role and balance, when the developers said they want the game to be a killer sided game, it means it would be killer sided game, is that simple, lets do simple math.

Here is the breakdown of the math:

1. The Baseline: A standard Dead by Daylight match has 4 Survivors.
2. Your Performance: You get 3 Kills per match.
3. Single Match Calculation: 3÷4=0.753÷4=0.75 (or 75%).

When you scale this up to 10 matches, the ratio stays exactly the same:

• Total Possible Kills: 10 matches ×× 4 survivors = 40 survivors
• Your Total Kills: 10 matches ×× 3 kills = 30 kills
• Final Calculation: 30÷40=0.7530÷40=0.75 (75%)
• By aiming for 60%, the devs are trying to push the average match slightly closer to a 3-kill game than a 2-kill game to maintain the pressure.

get it? the game is not balanced at all, it is actually very killer sided(unless ur playing the worst killers in the game which currently didnt get buffs but they will eventually).

im over 12k hours in dbd, i played comp dbd, i read ur comment, and u said it is not the same but it is, Stats are evidence, and evidence says that the game is far easier for killers than survivors, the only reason u feel like the game is survivor sided is because of the game mechanics which allow survivors to fight back against a killer which makes the experience rough on the killer end, even if the killer won the game he will still feel stressed as if the game is not really killer sided, but it is, when balancing any game, lets forget about the league alright, in any game balance is made around the 50s, DBD is clearly going for 60-40 which is a fact. there is no balance in 60-40 buddy, even if matchmaking was fixed, killers would still lead in scores.

killer sided ez, if anyone ever says it's survivor sided (notice how killer has 1 player and survivor has 4) they are just really bad at the game, like even bad players can get kills by playing like slugging, tunneling etc. Survivors have it hard because there are no comms and there is only so much you can do (pallet next to a tree like what kind of tile is this). Killers camp hook, tunnel, slug. I'm already getting queued up with new vecna players who camp hook and then melee you as your just getting off hook and they are allowed to melee you again resulting in you going down. Just know if you are solo queuing the game is probably going to suck really bad unless you get a bad killer. If you want to have fun you have to make friends and join a VC, but even then the game is designed so the killer can play like a straight B.

They would need to lead in scores. At the moment, per official stats, experienced levels of play (meaning we're outside of newbies unfamiliar with how to loop and such), SWFs have a 48% escape rate on average across several matches. For a survivor, escaping is their win, so essentially, a near 50% chance to win. That means the killer has to be able to kill at least 3 out of 4 people to win their match when each of those people have a near 50% chance to escape. That's generally why people say it's survivor favored - the killer has to face off against 4 survivors who have a near 50% escape rate according to official stats at experienced levels of play, while those same survivors only face 1 opponent. As a reminder, a 60% intended kill rate translates to 2.4 kills per match on average across multiple matches. Some people have a hard time understanding that, so for those people, understand that a 50% kill rate is 2 kills on average, and a 75% kill rate is 3 kills on average.

48% escape rate for 4men swf means people in coms still on average gets 2 out and 2 dead, + and - . meaning that survivor in 4men is currently balanced in this game, and we talking about all killers from F tier to S tier, if we only include the A-S tier, then the 4men winrate will drastically drop to 20-30%, and soloq would drop to 5-10% lol

On average it's killer sided.

4 man sweat swfs are impossible for average killers to beat. But thats like ooh maybe 5-15% of the survivor player base?

Mid tier and weak survivor teams get repeatedly ground into paste.

The game should be killer sided to a certain extent. It is asymmetric after all. But imo it's too far over at the moment towards killer. I'm not a good survivor player, but I'd consider myself competent. And the survivor games at the moment are just essentially a punching bag simulator where you are the punching bag.

If killers are doing badly then they can just fall back to tunneling and proxy camping hooks for easy hooks states and sacrifices. Or just play broken killers like chucky, vecna and ghoul.