Finally! Thank you bvhr Sincerely

I don't think any of these needed nerfs. It's just selective outrage that will find a new target shortly after.

Massively disappointed by the Sprint Burst nerf but I can't say I didn't expect this coming. Anything that the community constantly whinges about is on borrowed time. I dunno why it's taken them nearly 10 years to nerf this perk if it was really such a problem, but OK I guess…

I'll be swapping my beloved SB out for Lithe whenever this update goes live.

I don’t get the deliverance nerf. This perk has been around since 2018, I dont remember people complaining about it then so idk why it’s getting nerfed now

As a vigil main, I think the new values are still more than before buff? It's still going to be strong

Sprint burst is the one I'm side eyeing, I don't use it personally, I've always used balanced landing. I'm worried this is going to be a trend of targetting exhaustion perks.

Yet hyper mobility killers still exist in the game, I feel if we are targetting mobility on one side we really should be looking at it on the other also. This is a slippery slope.

It's so funny to me because we have people being like, "this perk has always been broken" and I'm just like...SINCE WHEN?!

Their perk balances doesn't make much sense. Nurse's Calling and STBFL are getting buffed even though their already decent, while there are dozens of trash perks like Haywire that will probably get skipped.

I don't really think it ever stopped the people who like those killers anyway. SB is one of my biggest annoyances on my main. Didn't ever make me consider not playing him. People aren't changing their killers cause someone might have one perk.

You are probably right. Lithe is actually a slightly stronger perk for me, but I think it's fair to say BHVR won't be nerfing any exhaustion perks because of SoloQ players like me. All it's doing is taking away yet another perk that I like to play with.

Low mobility Killers have other things in their toolkit meant to offset a lack of mobility and to help them cut down chase time, though. That might be a ranged attack like Huntress. Or it might be stealth that allows you to sneak up on Survivors + a dash attack like Chucky / Pig or stalking ability like Myers / Ghostie to shorten the chase. Trapper and Skull Merchant want to push Survivors into their set ups and don't care too much about exhaustion while Sadako can use her TVs to catch up or cut off escape routes. There's also Mindbreaker, which is a pretty solid anti-exhaustion perk. I know it feels bad to have to run a perk to counter this or that in the game, but that's how DBD currently works and how we've told the devs we want the game to continue to work.

Lots of these Killers can struggle at high MMR but I think that's more to do with the higher percentage of SWFs playing at that level, who can negate a lot of these tools and strategies while generally playing more efficiently. But Entity forbid we ever do anything to nerf SWFs, BHVR would rather continue to ignore that elephant in the room.

I'm just tired of balance changes that make my experience worse while never really touching what I think is probably the biggest obstacle to actually balancing the game (e.g. BHVR continually fighting fires trying to balance around the strongest possible SWF using outside tools to communicate with + whatever their current meta load out happens to be).

Players just want to get decent value from their perks. I feel like that's not too much to ask for. It's not like anyone is suddenly going to start using Thalita's perks now that SB is getting a nerf. The same goes for any other terrible low pick perk in the game. I think it would be a better idea to buff more perks to give players viable alternatives and play styles, so we see certain perks a little less often.

(I do understand some of the other nerfs, however. Vigil probably needed a nerf. Thrill mitigated the gamble of running a hex build a little too much and while Coulrophobia was maybe fine on its own, it's promoting a slug heavy play style that they don't want to encourage).

Sadly that's just how BHVR functions - if something is a problem they nuke every possible aspect and burn it out of the game.

SB as a perk by itself it really well designed - it trades off having to make decisions about walking to preserve it (but thus wasting time that could be doing something else) or using it to get to gen (but risk it not being recovered when a killer finds you). Its a great measure of game sense on when to use it and as an early player perk helps people learn that skill.

Unfortunate we might lose that.