So Clown's the least Lethal Killer on PC
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@Madjura Let me just tell you that your suggestion of improving his reload to have a gameplay impact, its brilliant.
My own suggestions for improving the Clown's gas would be to add a small 5-10 second exhaustion debuff to it which would require survivors to "take a breather" (aka stop running) for a short moment. And probably add another second to the gas' duration.
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Not too much, hag can easily break the loop by putting her trap next to a pallet... byt his survivor is forced to leave this loop... unless hag is braindead and/or have autoclicker on ctrl, so she can't leave her traps for later.
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Struggles with loops? On what planet? Look I love the guy and I've sub after the quality of his content was corrected again. But the rank list was heavily flawed. Putting Hag that low for being add-on reliant when you've put Shape and Cannibal in the above average when cannibal is absolute ######### to play with without adding and half of his addons are still bugged is absolute bs or a massive oversight.
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This is similar to how they listed SWF stats.
They lumped it all together instead of showing it per rank which doesn't give you an accurate picture of the reality.
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Oh my f**king god.
Its been a while since I've seen any one THIS delusional about the Hag.
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The killer with 30+ bugs is balanced....
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@Cursed_hatchet technically bugs don't directly correlate with being less balanced.
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Mint rag is a garbage add-on, Hags best addons are dried cicada and cracked turtle egg.
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Apart from the fact that these heavily affect his performance such as the bottle exploding in his hand being one example.
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@GodDamn_Angela Right? XD. But let's stop attacking him, he's entitled to his own opinion. But I definitely agree, I haven't seen someone underestimate Hag in so long.
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I mean prove me wrong. Every Hag I face got rolled time and time again even with noed
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@BlazeNightash are you on like in 10 mins? We can do KYF?
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Unless you guys are console players. Killers tier list differ from pc and console.
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@BlazeNightash I came from console, about 7 months ago. I became untouchable as Hag a while back and lost my skill since. That being said, I always 4k.
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Pc and console killer tier is completely different. Nurse isn’t the best on console because she’s a ######### to control vs pc were a god nurse is a nightmare
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Hag is extremely easy to deal with as far as pc. The time I spent playing on pc I never once had had trouble with a hag except when i first started playing obviously, but not anymore
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@BlazeNightash tell me how to counter one then, I face god tier Hags and get my arse handed to me XD. I really want to know how. I try to pop their traps, but they tp to me and just crush me.
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Does help I alway run flash light and urban. But also having a decent team. If you’re playing at rank 12 survs then you might lose. Because they’re potato’s. But a good team even non-swf know if they’re dealing a hag as soon as she’s on someone you go around popping her traps. Her looping game is minor, slower speed and has nothing in her power to really catch players, if she try’s to throw a trap in the middle of a loop she loses bloodlust and stalls her self even if she try’s to fake it so you have time to move to the next loop and repeat over and over. She has no way to force a pallet that well without just eating a perfect loop into a pallet drop
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@BlazeNightash the Hags I face, tend to have traps everywhere anyway. But yeah, I'll try Urban evasion I guess.
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You can also use her own traps against her by popping it running back, harder to do but it works on less skilled hags on loops.
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Urban I run mainly for spirit lol cause only way you can juke that #########
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Also ya that’s why smart teammates run around popping them as soon as she gets on someone what I do when I see a hag in game chasing my teammate
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Hag has the same issue as trapper, where you as hag can go and set up traps at loops before chases they start, but good survs will just go around popping them as soon as you get in a chase basically making you waste more time if you try to reset traps. Best hag builds I found are basements hag and Don’t touch my ######### hag but even that can he wreck by a good swf group
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When the discussion on how to better the Clown turns into a Hag e-peen contest.
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Clown is balanced as ######### it’s just survs benefits through perks and map design screw majority of killers. THE issue isn’t killers are weak the issue the amount of broken perk, map design and the fact gens can be done so quickly. One gen takes about a min. Without toolbox or another surv.
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A Hag master will just teleport, spread the damage and apply pressure so enjoy running around like a chicken, wasting time trying to pop the traps because the Hag will benifit from the pressure she gains.
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Yes you teleport to another trap across the map and start an entirely new chase with a fresh surv who also knows how to perfect loop. Oh btw 2 gens are done. Oh what so that you hit them finally? Welll traps are being set off again and another’s gen is done. ######### no hooks in 3 gens rip
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Make flask of Bleach base kit, and make new flask of bleach now read.
"Injured survivors afflicted with wasted become broken for 30 seconds"
This will give him counter to the instaheal, 3 hit tank meta going around right now.
And help him cut off those loops. He can still be looped with the normal gas.
Edit: i also want to point out, 50% kill rate is balanced, in the eyes of the devs.
It means half the survivors die,and half survive.
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*Laughs in skilled hag*
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Clowns issue is gen pressure, not executing chases, his chase potential is right by the top tier killers, he has no map presence, so those buffs will just give survivors little to no counter-play.
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I wish intoxicated survivors where blocked from interacting with generators. Its frustrating to toss a bottle at a far away gen only for the survivors to complete it by the time you close the distance. It might be the only thing he need to have some light map pressure.
At minimum there should be some kind of penalty for trying to work on a gen while intoxicated. It would make sense.
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This is far from true. Nurse is not unplayable, except on Haddonfield because of frame rates. Trust me I know several TOP TIER Nurse players on Xbox and I face a few of them regularly. They will crush you as hard as any PC Nurse.
The reason Nurse has the lowest kill rate is because she is hard to learn. Most Nurse players on console are complete garbage, which brings down the average. If I could I would give you the names of some Nurse players on Xbox so you could see she is still the strongest killer on console. It's just, due to frame rates and controller sensitivity she is very hard to learn so most players never even come close to that level. But face someone that plays her all the time and you will see she is still the best killer in the game.
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Key word, “several”. There are VERY few Nurse mains I see on PS4. Of course they’re good because they can work through bad frame rates and have had many hours of practice with Nurse. The reason she is so lowest on both consoles is because to the vast majority of the playerbase, she’s not as viable as PC. No, she isn’t UNPLAYABLE but most players would do better on PC as Nurse.
Console Nurse can be as dominant as PC Nurse but it’s not as easy and people don’t want to struggle playing her due to bad frame rates.
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@Keene_Kills ######### happens. At least people are passionate in their opinions.
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Well it's clear that you're another idiot parroting tydetyme and lack the skill to rank certain characters. Why don't you actually get a match against one of the Hag masters and not random noobs who chase without a web.
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Sure, still waiting to see one that manages to get a kill in a game at red rank without straight face camping
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this shows me only one thing:
everyone is underestimating trapsy ^^
(at least if i understand this chart right... he is the 3rd most lethal killer on PC and X-Box and the most lethal killer on PS4, or am i wrong there?)
also the clowns name isnt Jeffrey... its Kenneth Chase...
just saying...
besides that, if he had better map pressure, he'd be a lot more lethal, as currently he is just getting genrushed like nothing. in chases he is already pretty strong.
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Because face campers are good example of experienced killers right?
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Jeffrey Hawk is the name he adopted after he ran away from home. Both are valid.
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It’s literally like you can’t read. I HAVE YET TO MEET A DECENT HAG WHO CAN MANAGE MORE THAN ONE KILL AT RED RANKS @Cursed_hatchet
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@Mister_xD that’s the issue with most killers they’re getting gen rushed. A lot killers arn’t weak. It’s just the game goes-to fast
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How about 77 videos showing Rank 15-Rank 1 as Hag before her buff on an entire channel with a focus on this particular killer.
Just because YOU have yet to meet a decent Hag, doesn't make her bad or that players that can stomp you with her don't exist.
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That’s Old. I’m talking about the current rank system that doesn’t have potatoes at rank 1 anymore. A good hag vs bad survs means nothing to me. I’m talking good hag vs good survs. Like I can go in and play meme builds and 4K at low ranks.
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@SpaceCoconut wow, she used to be bad. Her trapping speed with those addons are her base now XD.
@BlazeNightash the fact that, that was her pre buff state, is the point there. She's way stronger now and still viable.
You need to understand Hag to understand her strength. I can't agree that she's D tier since she's not.
Agree to disagree?
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It's pretty much agreed that the current ranking system doesn't accurately rank killer skill since the requirements to rank up require killers to not do too well against survivors.
Fast 4k's are punished by the current ranking system so killers who consistently stomp teams of survivors regardless of rank don't rank up because of the system.
The age of the videos is relevant since she's been buffed since the statement was that you personally haven't gone against a skilled hag.
The video is just evidence that skilled hags exist and Hag is a better killer than you care to admit.
If I'm a Rank 1 Hag on the 12th of the month and Rank 10 on the 13th, do I still have the skill of a Rank 1 Hag even though my number is green?
Do you have similar skill the day before and after rank reset?
The current ranking system is a poor choice to base your definition of "good" players.
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I mean I ranked up stomping players. And red ranks does show how a good a killer is vs good survs. Because all the survs know what they’re doing.
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Exactly so why are you spreading false information about a killer you know nothing about apart from parroting tydetyme arguments which can be disputed by any of the Hag mains.
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Maybe because I play both killer and survs and see both sides? Like how brain dead are you to not get this. If every hag I gone against gets 0 kills or straight up rage quits cause they’d can’t do #########. And I myself at red ranks can’t do ######### with Hag. Like where’s your god hags I’m sitting here pointing out I never ######### one pull even a 2k vs good survs
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What's your Steam handle?
If I ever see you in a lobby we'll see how good you are.
It'll be good practice for me to go up against a survivor of your skill and it will also make for a good video for you to prove how terrible Hag really is.
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Well how the ######### am I supposed to know if some random guy on the forums plays both side's. All your doing and talking crap and spreading false information like the rest of tydetymes fan base. Also rank means ######### all with a system as flawed as the ranking system in this game.
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