Delete Exhaustion Addons

Thats exactly what he wrote and thats exactly what I already did. But thanks for trying.

Well, people use those Perks for a reason. I mean, just imagine this brown Toolbox-Add On would increase the Hex Skill Check Zones. It would be such a big thing vs Ruin. Same goes for Exhaustion.

I mean, those Add-Ons are most likely balanced for the time where Exhaustion recovered while Running. This is not present, so the brown Add-On does exactly the same like the Green Add-On.

Most of the addons are already pretty long duration, and you would be unlikely to recover from exhaustion during a chase regardless. The answer is not to flat out remove exhaustion addons just because exhaustion is now less broken at base.

I love that people think you rely on exhaustion perks because you think exhaustion addons should be changed. it's really stupid you're limited to 3 perks the entire game because of an add-on. you simply never get to use your exhaustion perk effectively without being unreasonable about it (example: having to stay injured so u can dead hard a clown bottle lmao)

Killers have to deal with only having 3 perks a lot too and that's not at the mercy of a select few add-ons, that's just a base game mechanic.

because those perks would be OP without it (hex perks), they last the entire game affecting all survivors. not to mention you still get some benefit out of them most of time, while exhaustion addons completely nullify your perk (unless BL). exhaustion perks are used once per chase (if the requirements for them are even met), not comparable to a hex that couldn't be destroyed

edit: y did that bold

Imagine saying dead hard is a good perk

Dead Hard is good if you don't use it like an idiot. Most survivors don't know how to get the most out of it

I still stand by the fact that the strongest perks having very uncommon counters isn't that big of a deal. Hell, some killers have their powers outright denied by certain items even and you don't hear people throwing a fit over that. A few perks even have super niche uses against specific killer powers (Calm Mind, Slippery Meat, No Mither)

calm spirit- you're still affected by madness, that doesn't change, you just don't scream

slippery meat- still rng based, not guaranteed and you're still affected by traps, making u stuck and injured

no mither- please, instead of 2 hits it's 1, you still have to mend from legion and not cleansing could spread the sickness to your team while making it harder to see

you have to be smarter with your uncloaks as wraith to avoid flashlights (plus, they dont last forever), and u cant be predictable with your trap placements. flashlights actually have counters, try not to compare them to something that isn't counterable

still haven't thought of a perk/add-on that that nullifies a perk like exhaustion addons do :/

Hmmmm... no?

First of all, the addons are all avoidable.

Huntress needs to hit you with a hatchet. The only perk affected by it is Dead Hard really, because you can use all other exhaustion perks to gain space before she hits you.

Pig needs a RBT on your head. You have bigger problems than exhaustion by that point, and she has better things to do than chase someone who already has a RBT.

Clown is the easiest one to apply/most consistent, but his entirely gameplay revolves around ending chases quickly, and the opportunity cost is moderate to high.

The only thing I could possibly agree with is maybe turning Solvent Jug into a rare add-on, but not really because Clown doesn't need to be nerfed.

So no. There's counterplay to those add-ons. Stop.

Edit: and other than Clown, those aren't even the best add-ons for the killers to run. As Huntress, quicker wind-up is pretty staple if you're even gonna use add-ons, and then there's other stuff like Hindered, faster cooldown for a quicker one-two punch, and mangled. As Pig, I never even use Exhaustion add-ons. She has better ######### to run, and her add-ons aren't even than stellar to begin with.

it's funny how u say there is counterplay, then you get to clown and and you're like "clown is meant to do that so it's fine" LOL. u also said what u said about pig like that addon isn't built for tunneling.

I knew u would say that, which is why I said what I said in those parenthesis. good one though lmao

You do know that counterplay doesn't have to be the same for all characters right?

Do you legit think there's no counterplay for a Clown with exhaustion add-ons? If that's what you think, check your play.

Pig could lose that add-on for all I care for how useless it is. The fact that you complain about it says more about yourself than the add-on.

in those scenarios u listed? yes. in the scenario of aan exhaustion add-on vs exhaustion perk it's a complete advantage

sorry I dont think it's fair to have my perk rendered completely useless the entire game, gaining no benefit from it whats so ever. guess you're right, i could stay injured so I can dead hard the clown bottle coming at me :/

or are u gonna tell me to stay near a structure to proc my balanced when the killer comes? because if there's nothing for me to do there then that's not countering, that's baiting your team. there is no counterplay for the exhaustion add-ons

I don't get how they still haven't touched them. They should have been changed with the exhaustion nerf honestly. :|

not once did I say they should be removed. what I'm not cool with is not even having the chance to use them. I already knew you would say something like be near a vault or a dropdown, and what about dead hard? u said nothing about that. u didn't have to list sprint burst, that perk is really dumb, exhaustion addons don't counter it we know that (really stupid not even exhaustion addons best it). if u really feel like knowing how I think exhaustion addons shoulde be changed (so that they are situational, and require someone who can last in a chance for a bit, while also needing the killer to capitalize on the debuff) then feel free to look for the post i made about it a few months back.

yes the one that is activatable anywhere at the press of a button is stronger than the ones that have requirements. you okay? shouldnt be hard to understand