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Does DS really make you a good player?

Bark2996
Bark2996 Member Posts: 18
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I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Lvl 3 almost halfway to 2 didn't use it until halfway through 12. Ran it for 6 games, 5 of which forgot to sue it in time, 6th 3 ppl rage quit against a Freddy. So I got to sue it right before I died, got rid of it never looked back.

    But the same argument about crutch against killers running insidious while camping.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @DocOctober said:
    DS / Good Player

    pick one

    ^What he said. Good Survivors don't need a "get out of jail free" perk.

  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    edited July 2018
    Of course. Do you think the Skill Check will hit itself? ;)
  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    If I'm being totally honest, I use Decisive in low ranks a lot. This is only because unlike Rank 1, most survivors are too scared and new to the game to know how to play. Otherwise, Rank 1 is perfectly viable without and all it is, is infact a crutch.

  • Cecaelia
    Cecaelia Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2018

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650

    DS is a interesting perk, but if I see someone run it, I usually just tunnell them. At the cost of the match to. I don't care.

    I run it on occasion myself. But not all the time. I use a variety of loadouts... for fun.

    Remember fun?

    There's nothing more satisfying then juggling a tryhard looping DS obsession to a hook, and then camping them hard.

    Then getting a salt induced message after about how I'm trash.

    I love it.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    I run Remember Me just to punish DS players and their teams. You can always tell the ones the have DS because they get all excited when you tunnel them. Normal survivors that end up being obsession panic a lot more when they see you. I usually play with a rule that if you are obs and don't hit me with DS I take it easy on you. You still gonna die by the end of the game if I catch you again, but I'm giving you a chance to escape so you better make it count.

  • shadowsfall42
    shadowsfall42 Member Posts: 201

    In my experience, most DS users are one of two sides. Either they're so good at looping and running the killer that they honestly shouldn't use DS at all, because they're already god tier or they're the weakest survivor on the team. You can usually tell which is which by not only how long it takes for them to go down initially, but also by how long it takes them to go down after using DS.

  • Doom_Punk
    Doom_Punk Member Posts: 371

    Nope.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

    Comparing DS (a perk that gives a free, undeserved escape after failing) to BBQ (a perk that significantly reduces camping) is like comparing Eggs with Bananas.

    People have such a short memory. They don´t remember how the game was before BBQ or swivel hooks.
    If i see 1 more complaint about BBQ, i swear i´m going full Insidious Basement camper with Leatherface until survivors ask me to equip BBQ again.

  • azazer
    azazer Member Posts: 446
    Tsulan said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

    Comparing DS (a perk that gives a free, undeserved escape after failing) to BBQ (a perk that significantly reduces camping) is like comparing Eggs with Bananas.

    People have such a short memory. They don´t remember how the game was before BBQ or swivel hooks.
    If i see 1 more complaint about BBQ, i swear i´m going full Insidious Basement camper with Leatherface until survivors ask me to equip BBQ again.

    This here. The key difference is BBQ rewards killers for an objective. You have to do your job in order to activate it. DS is a crutch for failing. Getting found. getting hit. all the while not doing gens. Literally failing on every level. But it's ok here's a second chance. 
  • whyareyoutunnelingme
    whyareyoutunnelingme Member Posts: 35

    I don't run DS, just too few perk spots for my evasive build, but as a survivor, I'm shocked at how much time my DS teammate can buy on generators.

  • Cecaelia
    Cecaelia Member Posts: 79

    @Tsulan said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

    Comparing DS (a perk that gives a free, undeserved escape after failing) to BBQ (a perk that significantly reduces camping) is like comparing Eggs with Bananas.

    People have such a short memory. They don´t remember how the game was before BBQ or swivel hooks.
    If i see 1 more complaint about BBQ, i swear i´m going full Insidious Basement camper with Leatherface until survivors ask me to equip BBQ again.

    Do it. Wear that Insidious Basement Leatherface.

    How is BBQ and DS any different. Both give undeserving escapes/finds. They are the same in that regard. I've seen killers before BBQ that couldn't find a survivor right next to them, now they just zip on over with the BBQ and Billy and begin the chase. Not to mention let's be honest, if a killer doesn't see one survivor on BBQ he suddenly just stands there and searches every blade of grass even tho 40m is pretty far out lol.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Cecaelia said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

    Comparing DS (a perk that gives a free, undeserved escape after failing) to BBQ (a perk that significantly reduces camping) is like comparing Eggs with Bananas.

    People have such a short memory. They don´t remember how the game was before BBQ or swivel hooks.
    If i see 1 more complaint about BBQ, i swear i´m going full Insidious Basement camper with Leatherface until survivors ask me to equip BBQ again.

    Do it. Wear that Insidious Basement Leatherface.

    How is BBQ and DS any different. Both give undeserving escapes/finds. They are the same in that regard. I've seen killers before BBQ that couldn't find a survivor right next to them, now they just zip on over with the BBQ and Billy and begin the chase. Not to mention let's be honest, if a killer doesn't see one survivor on BBQ he suddenly just stands there and searches every blade of grass even tho 40m is pretty far out lol.

    Don't be ridiculous. BBQ gives the killer a hint where to search a survivor. By the time he reached that spot, a survivor already moved. Unless he stands in the grass, thinking he's invisible.
  • olibob06
    olibob06 Member Posts: 26
    MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.
    Since when has Brutal Strength been crutch? 😂
    You’re clearly a survivor main and you rarely play killer and almost never get to go to the better ranks as killer, you see this from the perspective of a person who doesn’t know how it feels to spend 5 gens catching one toxic, looping scumbag, just to be D-Striked and Teabagged at the exit gate.


  • Techn0
    Techn0 Member Posts: 405
    You could be the best player in the world and run DS. I would still think you were hot garbage at the game. It's a crutch for bad players.
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    vampire_toothy said:

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Tsulan said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    @Cecaelia said:

    @Bark2996 said:
    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic survivor acting all high and mighty running this perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse loops and get a free get outta jail free card when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run it and can actually run the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good survivor.

    Does BBQ and Ruin make you a good killer? The question can be reversed.

    I'm sorry but whenever I see a toxic killer acting all high and mighty running these perk is just silly. You act like you don't care because you abuse aura reading and get a free chase when running this and they have the nerve to say ez in the lobby. I find people that don't run these and can actually find & chase the survivors the whole game without it more worthy to the title of being a good killer. :)

    Comparing DS (a perk that gives a free, undeserved escape after failing) to BBQ (a perk that significantly reduces camping) is like comparing Eggs with Bananas.

    People have such a short memory. They don´t remember how the game was before BBQ or swivel hooks.
    If i see 1 more complaint about BBQ, i swear i´m going full Insidious Basement camper with Leatherface until survivors ask me to equip BBQ again.

    Do it. Wear that Insidious Basement Leatherface.

    How is BBQ and DS any different. Both give undeserving escapes/finds. They are the same in that regard. I've seen killers before BBQ that couldn't find a survivor right next to them, now they just zip on over with the BBQ and Billy and begin the chase. Not to mention let's be honest, if a killer doesn't see one survivor on BBQ he suddenly just stands there and searches every blade of grass even tho 40m is pretty far out lol.

    BBQ rewards the killer for doing their objective of finding a person in the first place and then putting them on a hook for it to maybe give you useful information. DS rewards the survivor for failing. Do you see the difference yet? In a different style of gameplay I'd argue against aura reading entirely but the devs here want to ensure that everyone gets in on the action of the game as much as possible to avoid having people left out, hence why we have perks like BBQ & Chili (which is intended to promote healthier gameplay), nurses calling and any other form of aura reading for both sides. Tricking a killer with BBQ & Chili is not difficult (unless you're against hillbilly and nurse due to their mobility but even then it's not impossible). Try to fool the killers with lockers and have a laugh at it! If you think people are so dependent on it and would otherwise be unable to find people then in theory it should be easy for you to fool them too, right?

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    How exactly is brutal strength a crutch? You break the pallet 20% faster at level 3 or otherwise 0.52 seconds faster than the base 2.6 seconds. Yes there are issues on both sides of the game but you have your head in the wrong area in my opinion if you think BBQ, brutal strength and nurses calling are crutches. Just because something works as intended doesn't mean that it can't be unbalanced, people are right to complain about DS.

    Yet decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, and self care sre crutches right? Just because THEY WORK does not equal to being a crutch. Nurses calling legit gives away a survivors aura and so does BBQ. Okay...maybe BBQ isn’t a crutch perk but complaining about a grasp escape when you can run enduring 3 but saying aura reading perks aren’t a crutch is pushing it.
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    olibob06 said:
    MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.
    Since when has Brutal Strength been crutch? 😂
    You’re clearly a survivor main and you rarely play killer and almost never get to go to the better ranks as killer, you see this from the perspective of a person who doesn’t know how it feels to spend 5 gens catching one toxic, looping scumbag, just to be D-Striked and Teabagged at the exit gate.


    Some people aren’t meant to be killers. I’m not afraid to admit I’m hot garbage at killing, but it isn’t decisive strike that irks me as a killer. I know what it feels like to be teabagged in the end, but I also know what it is like to be facecamped because the killer is salty as hell because they couldn’t catch you because you ran for five minutes while the exit gates got powered. Yet people CATER to the killer if he facecamps and say he isn’t being toxic, because it is a strategy. No it isn’t, it is being unsportsmanlike and upset that they get outplayed. Do you want me to just lay down and die at the mercy of a killer? No, I’m gonna try my hardest to survive...but forbid if I loop a pallet or flashlight to save a friend because I’m being toxic. Both killer and survivors have ups and downs and I know of all of them. Point is that BOTH have crutch perks. Nurses calling and BBQ point out the survivors auras and if that isn’t a crutch then I don’t know what is. Yet sprint burst is apparently a crutch because it gives you a SMALL speed increase for a measly three seconds, okay must make sense.

     If you spend five minutes tunneling Claudette with a flashlight then that falls on YOU, not the survivor. She wants you to tunnel her and you are feeding it to her. Use your head and patrol generators instead of bitching about pallet loopers when you can easily avoid it. 
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    Just the fact that people say “If you run DS you are a garbage player”. Well, maybe you’re a garbage killer if you can’t learn to deal with ONE perk. 
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    Just the fact that people say “If you run DS you are a garbage player”. Well, maybe you’re a garbage killer if you can’t learn to deal with ONE perk. 

    Or maybe you are a garbage survivor, if you need a second chances.

    I wonder if you would be so smart, if killers had a perk, that allowed them to instantly catch a survivor, who wiggled out of their grasp.

  • vampire_toothy
    vampire_toothy Member Posts: 381

    @MegMain98 said:
    Yet decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, and self care sre crutches right? Just because THEY WORK does not equal to being a crutch. Nurses calling legit gives away a survivors aura and so does BBQ. Okay...maybe BBQ isn’t a crutch perk but complaining about a grasp escape when you can run enduring 3 but saying aura reading perks aren’t a crutch is pushing it.

    Nobody ever said anything about adrenaline in this post, not to my memory anyways. Decisive is indeed a crutch because it rewards the survivor for failing in such a way where if an experienced player used it then congrats! You've wasted your time as the killer for nothing, now you can go for another survivor and then get DS'd again until it happens 4 times without any penalty towards the survivor using it. Self-care? I have no complaints about that perk really, it's super powerful but I can already live without using it and still make it into the high ranks. The reason why I don't care about self-care though is because people act incredibly stupid with the perk. Sprint burst? Abused to avoid a hit that should've otherwise landed even with the speed boost, must I say more? It's a dead hard without needing to be injured when you activate it as the killer makes the swing. Also yes, if a perk works it can still be classified as a crutch if it turns out to be way too powerful.

    Also, enduring is by no means a counter to DS because you still get hit with it, perhaps you end up being stunned for less time but does that change the annoyance of the perk? No, a good player will still be able to use that time to their advantage.

    Let me give you some tips though, nurses calling only works on survivors that cannot care to think for even one moment. If you heal in the terror radius of the killer then that's absolutely your fault, this perk can be countered by having a brain and not healing when you should be in danger. Back when I used nurses calling I almost never saw any aura's from people healing because they actually thought about it. Infact, I can win without the perk and I can win against people using the perk. BBQ? People complain about this perk way too much, it was added to promote healthier gameplay so people would stop camping as much, if you think people are so reliant on the perk then start tricking them with lockers and have a laugh at it when they go to check it just to realize nobody was in it! Trick the killer into thinking they know where you're going. Depending on the killer, some won't notice you if you hide behind a gen as well (which had their aura's turned into a much more red aura to match the survivors). Now, that doesn't change the fact you still even thought that brutal strength was a crutch despite it only taking 0.52 seconds off of a 2.6 second animation.

    @MegMain98 said:
    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    You can play killer because it's part of the game to enjoy playing both sides. You don't need to be a great killer but that's why you learn and keep at it to get better at the game, plus gaining even more bloodpoints should be enough of an incentive to play as killer considering you'd be easily leveling up your characters faster than you would just playing survivor. Should the day come that maybe you make it to a high rank as a killer, maybe then you will come to realize that there are far bigger problems on both ends than aura reading perks currently.

  • Baphomett
    Baphomett Member Posts: 394
    The best argument I have is this - if killers had a perk that, once per survivor for each match, would instantly re-shoulder them after a save, DS or successful wiggle, we would see survivors make a mass exodus from the game with a massive sea of salt in thier wake.  But the reverse is totally okay?
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Baphomett said:
    The best argument I have is this - if killers had a perk that, once per survivor for each match, would instantly re-shoulder them after a save, DS or successful wiggle, we would see survivors make a mass exodus from the game with a massive sea of salt in thier wake.  But the reverse is totally okay?

    Yeah it is perfectly okay. Like:

    Woman got raped - HORRIBLE!11! #metoo #prayforrapedwomen
    Man got raped - kek, funny

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    Just the fact that people say “If you run DS you are a garbage player”. Well, maybe you’re a garbage killer if you can’t learn to deal with ONE perk. 

    Or maybe you are a garbage survivor, if you need a second chances.

    I wonder if you would be so smart, if killers had a perk, that allowed them to instantly catch a survivor, who wiggled out of their grasp.

    If need to know my aura and where I am on the map with BBQ, Amanda’s Letter, Scratched Mirror doesn’t that make you a garbage killer? I don’t wanna fight, we have two different opinions. If you tunnel one survivor and they have decisive then that’s your fault if all the gens get powered. Decisive is getting a nerf anyways so why is everybody still bitching? It isn’t going anywhere, they aren’t going to remove the perk. If decisive make me a garbage survivor so be it, you can use your aura reading add ons and perks and keep on being a garbage killer 🤷🏼‍♀️
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

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    @MegMain98 said:

Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.



BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    Just the fact that people say “If you run DS you are a garbage player”. Well, maybe you’re a garbage killer if you can’t learn to deal with ONE perk. 

    Or maybe you are a garbage survivor, if you need a second chances.

    I wonder if you would be so smart, if killers had a perk, that allowed them to instantly catch a survivor, who wiggled out of their grasp.

    If need to know my aura and where I am on the map with BBQ, Amanda’s Letter, Scratched Mirror doesn’t that make you a garbage killer? I don’t wanna fight, we have two different opinions. If you tunnel one survivor and they have decisive then that’s your fault if all the gens get powered. Decisive is getting a nerf anyways so why is everybody still bitching? It isn’t going anywhere, they aren’t going to remove the perk. If decisive make me a garbage survivor so be it, you can use your aura reading add ons and perks and keep on being a garbage killer 🤷🏼‍♀️

    Great argument with that addons, I salute you.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
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    @MegMain98 said:

    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.


    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.



BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.



There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.



BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.



There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
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    Yet decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, and self care sre crutches right? Just because THEY WORK does not equal to being a crutch. Nurses calling legit gives away a survivors aura and so does BBQ. Okay...maybe BBQ isn’t a crutch perk but complaining about a grasp escape when you can run enduring 3 but saying aura reading perks aren’t a crutch is pushing it.

    Nobody ever said anything about adrenaline in this post, not to my memory anyways. Decisive is indeed a crutch because it rewards the survivor for failing in such a way where if an experienced player used it then congrats! You've wasted your time as the killer for nothing, now you can go for another survivor and then get DS'd again until it happens 4 times without any penalty towards the survivor using it. Self-care? I have no complaints about that perk really, it's super powerful but I can already live without using it and still make it into the high ranks. The reason why I don't care about self-care though is because people act incredibly stupid with the perk. Sprint burst? Abused to avoid a hit that should've otherwise landed even with the speed boost, must I say more? It's a dead hard without needing to be injured when you activate it as the killer makes the swing. Also yes, if a perk works it can still be classified as a crutch if it turns out to be way too powerful.

    Also, enduring is by no means a counter to DS because you still get hit with it, perhaps you end up being stunned for less time but does that change the annoyance of the perk? No, a good player will still be able to use that time to their advantage.

    Let me give you some tips though, nurses calling only works on survivors that cannot care to think for even one moment. If you heal in the terror radius of the killer then that's absolutely your fault, this perk can be countered by having a brain and not healing when you should be in danger. Back when I used nurses calling I almost never saw any aura's from people healing because they actually thought about it. Infact, I can win without the perk and I can win against people using the perk. BBQ? People complain about this perk way too much, it was added to promote healthier gameplay so people would stop camping as much, if you think people are so reliant on the perk then start tricking them with lockers and have a laugh at it when they go to check it just to realize nobody was in it! Trick the killer into thinking they know where you're going. Depending on the killer, some won't notice you if you hide behind a gen as well (which had their aura's turned into a much more red aura to match the survivors). Now, that doesn't change the fact you still even thought that brutal strength was a crutch despite it only taking 0.52 seconds off of a 2.6 second animation.

    @MegMain98 said:
    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    You can play killer because it's part of the game to enjoy playing both sides. You don't need to be a great killer but that's why you learn and keep at it to get better at the game, plus gaining even more bloodpoints should be enough of an incentive to play as killer considering you'd be easily leveling up your characters faster than you would just playing survivor. Should the day come that maybe you make it to a high rank as a killer, maybe then you will come to realize that there are far bigger problems on both ends than aura reading perks currently.

    Killing isn’t my style. I like the dread of playing survivor, it’s more on the horror experience imo. I’d rather try to survive than kill. Although it’s like EVERY perk I use is either a crutch or it makes me garbage. If I wanna use DS then I will, if somebody thinks it is a crutch then oh well, so be it. High rank as a killer I can imagine is difficult but what do you expect? You’ll obviously be gen rushed and if survivors know what they are doing then it’ll be difficult for killers. 
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.



BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.



There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.



BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.



There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.

    No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

    We ALL know how OP the Nurse is when skilled. Sure everybody has dunked on a baby Nurse but a 4K is easy with Nurse once you master the blinks. The deadzones are a game flaw not an issue to do with survivors. Nurse and Billy are easy mode. Sometimes so is the Huntress and Myers. Even I (being a very mediocre killer) had a 4K with Myers with only one gen being complete. 
  • Baphomett
    Baphomett Member Posts: 394
    LF with no add-ons is easy mode.  Run around the map for a while with your huge terror radius and bright yellow neon apron, find a survivor and watch them SB into the distance, chase them for a while and then watch them fade into the distance again while you slow to a crawl because LF is too dumb to walk and rev a chainsaw at the same time for the ridiculously long base charge time, then go the basement and cry until the exit gates are open.  Easy.
  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

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RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.



RSB said:

@MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

    We ALL know how OP the Nurse is when skilled. Sure everybody has dunked on a baby Nurse but a 4K is easy with Nurse once you master the blinks. The deadzones are a game flaw not an issue to do with survivors. Nurse and Billy are easy mode. Sometimes so is the Huntress and Myers. Even I (being a very mediocre killer) had a 4K with Myers with only one gen being complete. 

    You had 4k with him on low ranks. Try playing on high, really. Your bias is a result of not playing the both sides regularly on same ranks.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
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    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.



RSB said:

@MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

    We ALL know how OP the Nurse is when skilled. Sure everybody has dunked on a baby Nurse but a 4K is easy with Nurse once you master the blinks. The deadzones are a game flaw not an issue to do with survivors. Nurse and Billy are easy mode. Sometimes so is the Huntress and Myers. Even I (being a very mediocre killer) had a 4K with Myers with only one gen being complete. 

    You had 4k with him on low ranks. Try playing on high, really. Your bias is a result of not playing the both sides regularly on same ranks.

    Well the ranks I were in as killer at the time were mediocre (8-15). The highest I’ve been as a killer is like Rank 12 or 13. Trust me, I’ve seen and been apart of a Nurse/Myers slaughter while playing survivor. Myers doesn’t have a high skill cap to learn. Of course you’ll have rounds were survivor will outplay you, but not EVERY round is that way. Play Nurse at Rank 1 if you’re skilled with her, easy 4K.
  • snozer
    snozer Member Posts: 776

    god it is so painful reading some of these comments... I am so glad the devs have started to ignore survivors and actually realise what needs to be done. i hope they don't change their minds.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.



RSB said:

@MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

    We ALL know how OP the Nurse is when skilled. Sure everybody has dunked on a baby Nurse but a 4K is easy with Nurse once you master the blinks. The deadzones are a game flaw not an issue to do with survivors. Nurse and Billy are easy mode. Sometimes so is the Huntress and Myers. Even I (being a very mediocre killer) had a 4K with Myers with only one gen being complete. 

    You had 4k with him on low ranks. Try playing on high, really. Your bias is a result of not playing the both sides regularly on same ranks.

    Well the ranks I were in as killer at the time were mediocre (8-15). The highest I’ve been as a killer is like Rank 12 or 13. Trust me, I’ve seen and been apart of a Nurse/Myers slaughter while playing survivor. Myers doesn’t have a high skill cap to learn. Of course you’ll have rounds were survivor will outplay you, but not EVERY round is that way. Play Nurse at Rank 1 if you’re skilled with her, easy 4K.
    IF you are skilled.
    IF you play nurse.
    IF you spend tons of hours on her.
    IF you manage to find mediocre survivors.
    THEN and only then, you have a chance for a 4k on rank 1.

    Maybe try reaching rank 1 killer first, before claiming that nurse is op.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Baphomett said:
    LF with no add-ons is easy mode.  Run around the map for a while with your huge terror radius and bright yellow neon apron, find a survivor and watch them SB into the distance, chase them for a while and then watch them fade into the distance again while you slow to a crawl because LF is too dumb to walk and rev a chainsaw at the same time for the ridiculously long base charge time, then go the basement and cry until the exit gates are open.  Easy.
    That was literally my last match.
    First down, dc on the way to the basement.
    Second down, basement insidious Leatherface.
    Third diwn, basement insidious Leatherface.
    The fourth survivor was salty.
    When I just tested playing without BBQ.
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,918
    Tsulan said:
    MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
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    @MegMain98 said:

    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.



RSB said:

@MegMain98 said:

RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said: Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player. BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness. There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.



No, you are not better at survivor, survivor is just an easy mode in this game, while killer is the hard mode. Something, that you refuse to aknowledge.

    Killer is not hard mode if you know what you are doing. A skilled Nurse player will MOST of the time get a 4K no wuestions

    Yeah, if she don't kiss the wall at 34523523532 deadzones on each map.

    We ALL know how OP the Nurse is when skilled. Sure everybody has dunked on a baby Nurse but a 4K is easy with Nurse once you master the blinks. The deadzones are a game flaw not an issue to do with survivors. Nurse and Billy are easy mode. Sometimes so is the Huntress and Myers. Even I (being a very mediocre killer) had a 4K with Myers with only one gen being complete. 

    You had 4k with him on low ranks. Try playing on high, really. Your bias is a result of not playing the both sides regularly on same ranks.

    Well the ranks I were in as killer at the time were mediocre (8-15). The highest I’ve been as a killer is like Rank 12 or 13. Trust me, I’ve seen and been apart of a Nurse/Myers slaughter while playing survivor. Myers doesn’t have a high skill cap to learn. Of course you’ll have rounds were survivor will outplay you, but not EVERY round is that way. Play Nurse at Rank 1 if you’re skilled with her, easy 4K.
    IF you are skilled.
    IF you play nurse.
    IF you spend tons of hours on her.
    IF you manage to find mediocre survivors.
    THEN and only then, you have a chance for a 4k on rank 1.

    Maybe try reaching rank 1 killer first, before claiming that nurse is op.
    That’s exactly what I claim. A SKILLED Nurse player will have the easiest time out of any killer to get a 4K. It isn’t even a competition on who is the best killer when skilled. Everybody knows the Nurse is the best killer in the game. I was never claiming she was OP, when did I ever say “Nurse is OP”? She is EASY to kill with but with a hard skill cap. You can’t pick up the Nurse while you only played her three times and expect a 4K. Wow...everybody must just expect survivors to lay down and die every game.

    Again, I’m not skilled a killing nor am I good in first person situations, so Rank 1 killer for me will never happen. Although it’s not perks that is causing me to not be a high rank like some people complain about.
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    powerbats said:

    Lvl 3 almost halfway to 2 didn't use it until halfway through 12. Ran it for 6 games, 5 of which forgot to sue it in time, 6th 3 ppl rage quit against a Freddy. So I got to sue it right before I died, got rid of it never looked back.

    But the same argument about crutch against killers running insidious while camping.

    Way more people run dstrike, despite the leatherface memes, I rarely face an insidous camper anymore.
  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    MegMain98 said:
    RSB said:

    @MegMain98 said:
    Killer mains are SALTY over decisive strike. It is a crutch perk but so is BBQ and Chill, brutal strength, and nurses calling...not to mention all of the aura reading add-ons that could be called a crutch on the killers side. There are both crutch survivor perks (DS, sprint burst, self care) and crutch killer perks. If it works then why ######### about it? If the player using DS acts toxic, don’t assume everybody who runs DS is a toxic player.

    BS so crutch, this 20% faster breaking pallets XDDD

    You made my day. Play killer, biased survivor, make it to the high ranks, and you will be there asking for forgiveness.

    There are crutch perks on both ends. Okay, maybe brutal strength isn’t crutch...I’ll admit that. BBQ and NC could be considered crutch however. 

    I don’t LIKE playing killer. Never been good at it. Not because of the so called “crutch perks” that survivors use, just because I’m never good at killing. Wasn’t great at Jason on F13, not the greatest on DBD. Why play killer when I’m better at survivor? Doesn’t make sense.
  • ACoolName
    ACoolName Member Posts: 177

    Nurse needs to find you. Unless she has whispers on, you pretty much stealth her for a greatly extend time, allowing you to finish 1-2 gen before she finds anyone. And since he has the ability to cut down chases pretty fast, Dead hard is a really kick to her shin, since she'll get fatigued. Now rinse and repeat that and you should get 2-3 kills / Escapes per match.
    Nurse is weak against stealth, great against confrontation.
    Doc is great against stealth, weak against confrontation.
    Every killer has a tactic to win, thus a counter play. But few people like Juking killers, and Nurse ( with the LOS of fatigue) is the most vulnerable to this.