Nurse nerf incoming boys!
When asked what Killer they will rework next mathieu vehemently answered nurse. Now Stephan tried to calm everyone by saying „We‘ll rework mainly her addons“. Keyword here being „mainly“. My guess is they will add a cooldown to her power. Probably not unlike spirits who is, mind you, the first and only good killer that has a cooldown.
but what do you think they‘ll do? Maybe just add a stun fx?
Edit: So in conclusion I was right as confirmed by peanits. Nurse power will recieve some „slight“ adjustments. Now whether that means a base range decrease or a charge time decrease, I think its fairly obvious that her base power will recieve a nerf.
Tldr: After 3 years of killers having counterplay to rank 1 swf groups the defs finally decided to change that.
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Just addons.
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Pretty sure it's just add-ons
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She already has a stun/fatigue FX.
They're going to nerf her base and put them as add-ons. I'm calling it.
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They won't touch her base power at all. I am 100% sure about that. They'll change the addons a bit, but in the end nurse will still be nurse. Only way to balance her out imo: Remove additional blinks and range addons. Obviously you could change her power but it won't happen. Mark my words!
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The sky is falling!
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Nerf=buffs when said by the devs, this has been a pretty common thing since the start of the game.
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I can hear it...
The screeching...
The nurse mains are coming...
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Like when they nerfed healing?
and nerfed MOM?
And nerfed DS?
and nerfed exhaustion?
and nerfed window vaulting?
and nerfed BNPs?
and nerfed insta flashlights?
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Yaaass nerf her uwu
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50% of what you said there is what i just said.
DS is better now, stronger that has ever been, if you fail to see that is clear that you don't play killer and have no understanding on what a killer does, and why he does the X thing.
Insta flashlights were a bug, never intended in the game, there were fast flashlight, but instant flashlights were a bug, probably you didn't know that, don't blame you.
I don't recall smth about window vaulting..., i still get survivor in my games that do a fast vault from angles where fast vaults shouldn't be a thing around ~50 degree angle, they still get fast vaults.
MOM it was nerfed, thank god should even be in the game in the first place.
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Watch from 37:20 to 37:40 in the livestream. It was said they would be touching "mostly" add ons. Implying more then just add ons will be adjusted
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Listen to that bloodlust, ya'll acting like a buncha tunnelers ... lol
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nurse can never be nerfed lol
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"Yeah, take the fun for them away, WUHUU!!!1111111".
Don't like to say anything about the nurse here, but this survivor behavior is really well... Can't find a polite word for it, so I let it.
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lmao????
Ds was the most hated survivor perk because it basically reset the match for the killer while keeping progress for the survivors.
If you think DS is stronger now then you have absolutely no idea what pre-nerf DS was like.
Yea, sure insta flashlights in the game for 2 years was a bug my dude.
Yea, you used to be able to fast vault a lot closer to the window, nerfing does not mean removing, of course it's still in the game.
and yes, thank god MoM was nerfed, but again, you have no clue if you think DS is stronger now or that instas were a bug, lol.
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Add on rework hell yeah! I better start burning every omega blink and 5 blink I've got. :v
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at 37:15 in the new stream Stephan says „mainly addons“ I dont know what your definition of „mainly“ is but to me it means they‘ll „mainly“ tweak the addons but also her power.
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100% ds is better now, maybe not as good as the first ds when all 4 could use it on the go, but better than every single other ds.
The first DS got nerfed very quick within 2-3 months, and now is better than the older version of it when you had to wiggle to 35 to get it.
Don't stress to much i play this game since beta, had reach rank 1 every single season on both sides, and judging by what kind of "nerfs" you listen me, is pretty obvious that you play only 1 side, thats why is hard for you to grasp the DS thing, again i dont blame you, if i didnt play killer i would agree with you.
And of the flashlight subject INSTAST flashlights were a bug, search on youtube whats the difference between INSTANST and FAST flashlight you should find some videos from 2016 with instant and from 2017 with fast.
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I really hope the devs are only going to adjust her add-ons. If her power would get a real cooldown, then she would have to get 110%/115% speed. Also there wouldn't be a killer anymore who would be viable against good groups with strong equipment.
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Oh Happy Days OH HAPPY DAYS when nurse was nerfed SING WITH ME
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It was actually mentioned in the stream, it'll be primarily add-ons. We're not looking to significantly change her base kit. There might be some slight changes, but we're mostly targeting the add-ons. It's just more efficient to do any minor tweaks we need to make to her power while we're already working on her add-ons.
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Now when she blinks, she is blinded, and has instant pallets fall on her head. If she tries to blink again she is sent back to her original spawn point, and slowed by another 10% until the next generator is done. If she tries to blink before that time then her aura is shown at all times and now she cannot phase through objects. The goal is to make it so she is the slowest killer and you never want to use her power.
GG EZ nurse is now the new Freddy.
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It literally just pulls achievement data that is being tracked behind the scenes, achievements have definitely been broken before, but of course - the website is just fake, duh.
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Xoxo
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Good luck. If the devs make her add-ons actually useful, they'll inadvertently buff the strongest killer in the game.
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What is the balance target you guys seek when tweaking a killer? Obviously Nurse is crazy powerful in the right hands, but a lot of the killers are seen as weak even when played to their full potential at red ranks. Red rank viability shouldn't be a goal for every killer, but is Spirit a reasonable target? Is the bar a bit lower? Or is it more relative because every killer works differently?
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I don't see them changing her base kit. If anything they nerf her SLIGHTLY so that she will need to use white add-ons to be the same as before (but will still be very strong).
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i guess stuff like reduce her base range and then add the range back as addon?
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Honestly do you blame killers for freaking out when "tweaks" are mentioned? After all tweaking has a tendency of turning into a Nerf-Nailed-Bat. (Most) Survivors would love for her and any of the big 4 to get the Legion treatment for sure.
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What has caused the need to make any changes whatsoever to one of the very view viable killers you have? And possibly the "only" killer that has a 'chance' against a well coordinated SWF team?
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So there will be changes to Nurse's base kit. I'm worried that after the changes she won't be playable anymore without add-ons.
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@Peanits said that they gonna slightly change her base kit, so she still should be playable without add-ons, just not as strong as before.
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Please devs, give nurse the same love you gave to MoM
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The many, many posts, videos, and discussions about some of her add-ons being too much, as well as the statistics we've collected over the last three years. We're not going in flailing around the nerf hammer hoping for the best, we're looking into the stuff that is almost unanimously agreed upon.
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A small nerf right now is needed. But, once they increase gen times by a bit, she needs much larger nerfs.
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To be fair those were all extremely good and on their own and didnt require much if any skill. Unlike nurse who needs a good player to be effective. Hell ive been using her nearly every game for two weeeks and still suck. For healing tho that was to give killers more time and didnt they buff healing yourself while downed along with unbreakable.
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Seriously, i'm not saying they were bad, I just think it's silly how some people say things without thinking about all the nerfs that have happened this year and pretending they were somehow buffs.
I have no issues with the changes listed, but to say nerfs = buffs with the devs is odd.
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Care to elaborate that "unanimously" part? If this turns out to be another "unanimously amongst Survivor mains", then you better be prepared for a big s-storm.
I'm all for tweaking her Add-ons, some of them are quite problematic, but leave the Nurse herself alone.
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Nurse mains admitted she was OP, survivor mains said she was OP. If even Nurse mains agree she is OP then clearly she definitely is. Plus her kill rate was pretty high at rank one.
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Chill Winston, this has been known for months.
Anybody who's good with Nurse will agree that her extra blinks and range addons are broken af.
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Actually, even most of the killers mains said that range and extra blinks add-ons are too powerful, but base kit Nurse is fine.
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Wait, I thought they said Bubba was next?
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We didn't say any of them in particular are next, but he is on the list.
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I'll reserve my judgement until after I see the changes.
As long as they don't make her add ons worthless, and significantly change her base power, we're cool.
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This seems very unfair to those that have invested countless hours in learning the nurse. All you really need to is make her purple addons useful since you heavily nerfed her years ago and make her range addons so they don't stack.
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Oh, ok. Can't wait for that one. Hope his rework is freddy caliber! Freddy is the perfect example of a decent re-work.
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Man you're going to have a hard time without your 3rd blink
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"Nurse mains".
Where's that "I'm a Killer main, BTW" meme when you need it...
Nurse with Add-ons is OP, yes, that should be changed, but only that.
Base Nurse is fine. The problem lies not with her, but with Survivors refusing to adapt to her unique playstyle. They are used to be able to use the same old lame strat of pallet looping against literally all other Killers. That is so ingrained in them that they can't divert from it anymore and pay the price for it when facing the one Killer that absolutely requires you to be adaptable in your playstyle in order to succeed.
That to me is no grounds to nerf base Nurse. Survivors will have to learn to adapt to her. Many veteran Survivors still know how to properly play against a Nurse and do quite well against her. The problem with that is that those Survivors get fewer and fewer as time passes and people move on from the game and the few remaining ones are often paired with Survivors that have no idea or only a poor idea on how to play against a Nurse, basically turning the game into a defacto 3v1 or even 2v1 for that veteran Survivor, type of games which we all know are in the Killer's inherent favour, so of course the stats show her being very strong on rank 1.
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We have not even said what we are changing yet. The only thing that we've mentioned is that we'll mostly be focusing on the add-ons. The other changes could be very small for all we know.
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