Freddy is OP
Well, everybody had problem with Legion. I dont know why. I have problem with FREDDY!!! All game I have been playing so far are rank down, no chance against millions freddy skills. Teleporting to gen, traps, faker pallets also add idiotic campers andf tunneler and add-ons. All survivors down, 5000 - 7000 poins, while killer get double pip...
Really balanced game. If you create something like this, you should let survivors - players decide, which killer will be in game. Because I dont wanna definitely play against freddyshit
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huh, it hasnt even been a full day yet. I was so sure thats all the time was needed to know how to play against and counter a killer effectively. Guess not, let the nerfing commence!
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Least Freddy lost his map wide wall hack.
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LOL, can you imagine the killer's identity being a lobby-wide vote? It would just be nothing but D-tier killers all day every day.
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Ah #########, here we go again.
(Is the profanity filter gone?)
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"Well, everyone had a problem with Legion. I don't know why..."
Everything after that statement should be thrown out the ######### window.
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My god it's already started.
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Good thing they don't nerf/buff after a week anymore.
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Dream pallets aren’t even that good imo. He hasn’t even been out for a full day so I’d recommend playing against him more. :)
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he ain't though
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Freddy isn't OP. Once more, every game is situational. Your team and their player skill-level. The killer's skill-level. All players knowledge with the game, perks and maps etc. Everything needs to be taken into consideration. Not to mention, he can't use fake-pallets or dream-snares at the same time, you can only use one. So he has two abilities like Legion.
If you're playing against Tunnelers, campers? Then you're playing against jerky players, but that's nothing to do with the Killer. Honestly, Freddy needed this re-work and now it's made him a more viable killer and not one that can be jerked around. The fact that you even mentioned about survivors - players, being able to pick the killers in the game, speaks volumes.
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Seriously, at least wait a day
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The thing is there are too much things going on, the blood, the pallets, the gen transportation, the sleep state and slow gens, what about risking something instead of winning in a cheap way.
Not very balanced, as long there are no tunneling penalties these kind of killers are OP.
If you are getting unhooked you should take 2 hits even if you are not fully healed.
And DS should be a mandatory thing in the game, not a perk, once in the game you have a chance to escape.
Most of these killers where killed by dumb weak teenagers in the movies, what the hell are you doing guys?
Im rank 9 after the reset and all I see is ruin, mori, noed, and lot of tunneling and I play solo, mori should be only from rank 5 to 1.
Not something you see in a daily basis, ruining the game for everyone.
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The fact that you are fine with campers and tunnelers without any kind of punishment also speak volumes too, because thats all Im seeing from rank 10 to 5, guys that want to kill using 1 button and viola, they are awesome and talented!
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Playing against him today, he's literally an m1 killer. The snares barely do anything if you just drop the pallet early, and as for fake pallets- that means he doesn't have snares, meaning you can shut down his whole power if you just have a memory better than a single red ant and avoid dream pallets. Actually manages to be worse than a properly played Old Freddy.
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Maybe... just maybe....
give it time and learn to play against him :)
I'd suggest small game if you don't like the pallets. I ran it for my first round against him, was the pallets, and I was able to destroy the decoys often and not get caught out by them. it was like being chased by old freddy.
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He is an m1 killer, that has lots of things going on around him so he can just relax and use 1 button to get the job done.
You say survs only have to evade, memorize, get awake, escape from gens and he only needs m1? seems unbalanced to me.
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Is this whole thread a bait, or should it be taken serious? I´m not really sure about this?!
Regarding the points:
- Teleporting to gen: First of all, this power needs to fill up after the match started. He´s the ONLY killer who´s in need to wait until he can use his power (which is, imho, bs). Legion, Spirit, and so on can use their power after the game starts. They are able to move faster than normal to the ruin or a highlighted gen (when using discordance). And if he teleports, this power needs 5 seconds, where everyone can leave. If this is the big problem, than good luck with Blinky Girl or Spirit, where u get no warning and they just appear. The only good reason to use this power is after hooking someone, u can PGTW a gen
- Traps: Are bs, sorry to say. Same effect as the gas from the Clown, and Clown sux without addons. Even the Clown can through his bottles over a pally after it´s dropped. So, in which way should this snares be op? It´s the same counter as against Clown, just drop the pally, and fast vault the pally every time, cause same as the gas, the snares dont afflict fast-vaulting pallys.
- Fake pallets: So u know, he has no snares, if u encounter the fake pallets. And he has to force u to this pallets, as the Trapper has to force u into his traps, same as Hag. It´s DBD-Memory, not more, not less. Yesterday a survivor "annoyed" me, cause everytime he saw i created a pally, he dropped it. So, same bs as with the Hag or the Trapper, when someone´s near to u, they just destroy your traps / hag traps or fake pallys.
- Idiotic campers and tunnelers: this, i think, is the main problem of Freddy, cause he´s the only killer who´s able to do so. Kappa.
- 5000 - 7000 BP and killer gets double pip: maybe aat green ranks, at red ranks this means, the game was too fast, the killer had no chance to 3-hook everyone, so maybe one pip. On the other side, if everyone had just 5 - 7 k BP, this means to me, there went something absolutly wrong.
- Let survivors decide, which killer is released: of course, maybe than every killer has the movement spped of a non-blinkin nurse, and only feral frenzy as possibility to attack. So u just can injure everyone, but that´s it. Sure.
I guess u missunderstood the definition of a M1-killer.
I honestly invite u to play all M1-killer, one after the other, and pls, relax and press just one button. But, stream or record it.
If u think, playing killer is relaxing, just listen to survivor-main-streamer, who dont play killer cause it´s too stressy.
"evade, memorize, get awake, escape from gens and he only needs m1" - just for the sake, the killer has to use M1, M2 for his traps /pally, Ctrl to teleport. Maybe "R" to drop a survivor. U r using M1-simulator, sometimes u hit space, maybe Ctrl to crouch, and Shift to run. Ah, sorry, forgot bout "R" to drop an item. Not that big difference.
U have to evade, he has to search survivors, and chase them. U need to wake up (i dont see the reason for waking up, but ok), he has to set traps or fake pallets.
U need to escape from gens, he needs to port to them or run to them.
He only needs M1 - and u? I nearly never play with medkits or toolboxes or so, means, my only interaction is M1 to repair, hittin sometimes Space. When i get chased, just Shift and Space. I´m not writing an essay while playing, that i have to use my whole keyboard.
just as Saveatznick said, at the end of the day, he´s just a M1-killer. No chainsaw, no puke, no hatchets. Just his bas attack.
And, cause i saw rants bout his add-ons in another topic - they r quite #########. A very rare addon, which comes with a hemmorhage effect for 60 seconds. Wow. Surely as powerful as prayer beads (also very rare). And once again, stupid timed effects, BUT... No exhaustion addon, as Huntress, Clown and Pig have. So, same bs as Legions buttons.
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Wait, Small Game works on Dream pallets?! :o
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You don't need to wake up against him unless you know he's using dream pallets, and even then it's almost better to be asleep because you can drop the pallets you know are fake while he's occupied. Survivor gameplay against him has a few quirks that may or may not come into play, but in the end, he's still a loopable m1 killer.
If you really think playing any m1 killer is a "sit back and relax" kind of deal, you probably need to play killer more.
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not op, but fake pallets need a rework imho, there is no counter for them, don't say to memorize throwed pallets, cause you can't remember a pallet that you haven't throwed, 90% of the cases, fake pallets it's a free hit.
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Legion is an M1 killer and I killed lots of survs by just running jumping pallets and pressing gens, whats your point? that sometimes you use space occasionally?
You talk like playing killer is some exhausting thing like Quake 3 or Quake Champions, when in fact you will never die, you can use ruin to hang a couple times before the first gen gets done, close hatches and there are a trillion of campers watching the hook from a distance to tunnel the hooked surv, you are faster than them, you never run out of anything like flashlights, toolboxes, etc and perks to see survs after hooking or if they are doing gens in coop...
Lets not forget those boring gen locking matches.
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Exactly. also who told them we need to be experts and memorize every map to know everything just for one killer?
Like hey the match has just started, Im gonna scan the whole map to check pallets, in 5 minutes I will check totems and then while killer is drinking coffee I will start doing some gens.
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Maybe you need to play another games, this is a very fun game, but is not deep in mechanics at all, to say playing killer is hard is too much.
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Woah, woah, woah. I didn't say at all, that I was fine with campers and tunnelers. I said you're playing against jerky players. Of course it's not fun if you get camped or tunneled, honestly the only players that deserve such treatment are toxic players imho. As I said before, it's not the killer, but the player that causes the issues you're complaining about.
Not mention when you progress through the ranks and start from Rank 10 towards Rank 1. The game gets consistently more difficult, so you'll have to expect players are going to become more desperate for points/pips, especially when there's the gen-rush.
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I don't have an issue with the rework.. bar 1 thing. who the hell thought it was a good idea to let him teleport to ANY gen. this is super strong with 2 gens and less to go. its crazy. perma 3 gen strat? I have seen a lot of things rated too OP since I started playing dbd that weren't. Watched people bicker about OP survivors OP Killers. Campers, Loopers, Tunnelers.. and I did not care.. as everyone has the right to play the way they want with what the game gives them. but gen teleporting is a step too far imo. its too strong.. or at least needs to be disabled with 2 gens to go or limited like the hag, needing to be in a certain distance. I play DBD a little over 2 years now with over 2000 hours.
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Gen locking happens because the survivors do all the gens in one area, the killer is just taking advantage of the survivors' mistake. It's not the killer's fault that the survivors decided to lock down their objective options by not thinning out the remaining gens.
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I'm glad you didn't have a problem with Legion, but I did have a problem with how weak Freddy was. Sure, he had some strengths (Red paintbrush on The Game), but overall was weakened due to survivor complaints.
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The teleport takes so long that you end up using it very rarely. The more survivors that die, the even more rarely you'll use the teleport. I think you're over exaggerating its' usefulness. Most just use the ability to scare people from the gens. Besides, it's a dream, shouldn't he be able to as the dream demon?
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I'll just drop this off here...
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If they use lame tactics to try to get a pip there should be a punishment, I play mostly solo and its very frustrating to have 80% of the matches with killer exploiting lame stuff.
As I said before, if the entity is so killer friendly, why even bother? those killers bit the dust getting wasted by dumb kids in the movies.
At some point killers must accept they will never beat those rank 1 SWF because its too much, but that doesnt mean EVERYONE must pay for their suffering.
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Is not surv faults to play solo and have no communication at all, and there you have it, a 40 min boring as hell match where 90% of the times the killers lose, almost the whole team escaped 9 out 10 times.
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It's clear, that there's no clue at all. The game, and how it works and even for movies lol. I can't help but feel a trollish presence here. Good luck in your future games. xD
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Mike Myers, bullied by a teenage girl
Freddy, the same.
Ghostface????
Trapper is an unlicenced Jason Voorhees.
Nice try to chance history.
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What mistake? playing solo? having no form of communication at all?anyway the result is 9 out of 10 times the killer lose and almost the whole team escapes.
The only time it went bad it was because it was a nurse.
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So... you're simultaneously saying that killers are OP and should be nerfed, and that 9 times out of ten the killer loses and the whole team escapes?
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😑😕😵🤪
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well then... take his ability away to hit survivors that are awake. its not part of freddys power anyway. I have never in all my dbd hours.. seen such a horrible killer rework.. it was only a matter of time till gen teleporting became a thing. it needs ot be nipped in the butt right away. I still stand by what I said.. gen teleporting is too much, no matter how slow. it is the 1 and only issue I have with this rework.
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i dont wanna be that guy but... if you really have problems against the new freddy than you just need to get better and adapt. he is slightly better than before, nothing to crazy about him. so stop being angry and whiny try to improve instead.
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"Do you want to know the secret to pain? If you just stop feeling it, you can start to use it." -Robert Englund.
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Camping, Gen Locking and OP are the same thing?
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So you are saying CAMPING and GEN LOCKING are the same thing that being OP.
Great, tell us more please.
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Aikanaro, please get banned.
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Truth hurts.
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Playing both sides, I find the new Freddy fair and fun on both ends. There's nothing OP about him imo.
The teleport is useful for map pressure and great to quickly start a new chase after hooking someone, but it gives survivors enough time to react and run away.
Neither Snares nor Pallets are that powerful, and both can be countered by waking up, which can be done three different ways.
I get that part of his powers can be frustrating to go against, but once you get a hang of it there's nothing overpowered about him.
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WOW, your that bad to want something nerfed, 2-3 games in against? lets just nerf all killers. so they cant even move. they cant even attack. the just throw blood points at survivors.
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I mean, it's hard to tell what you're talking about half the time because your English isn't the greatest. That's not your fault, it's a global game and your English is probably far better than what I could do in your language, but... posting the same post four times (the last 3 8 hours after the first one... you could have just used the edit post button, dude!) is a little excessive and you do seem to jump topics a lot.
But you do seem to be saying that killers are overpowered and needing a nerf. Is that correct, or am I misunderstanding your posts? And yet if killers manage to guard 3 generators (assuming that's what you mean by Gen Locking, which, assuming they're not just sitting there and doing nothing else the whole game until those 3 nearby are the only ones left, is good strategic gameplay) that it 9 times out of 10 leads to almost all survivors escaping. That seems to suggest that killers aren't OP, they can't even make a successful game (not even a 4k, but killing most of the players) in a situation that favorable. If they can't win in a 3-gen strat, how do you expect them to win if the last 3 generators are spread throughout the map?
Camping is a problem with gameplay, but it's not a problem with being OP and killers shouldn't be balanced around those who camp (except to a very limited level with ideally making a killer's perks and powers not reward it)
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Freddy is OP, right.
And Nurse needs a nerf.
Next your gonna tell me Hill Billy is to strong.
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The games I've had with Freddy, I've pipped. I think it's a you thing. He feels fine to me.
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Thats because the stupid page doesnt work on firefox, and a mod told me to threat you like a queen because it was probably hurting your feelings.
You are making a giant straw man out of nowhere, are gen locking, camping tunneling and being OP the same?
If not please stop this nonsense.
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